The Presidential prophecy- An update on Charlie Johnston

A triumphant Trump inaugurated amidst some bold predictions
Update Jan 1, 2018: Concerning Mr. Johnston's alleged prophecies and private revelations, from early on this writer often commented that time and events (or lack of events) will clearly reveal whether Charlie's prophecies are authentic, or not.  In other words, time will tell. 

Well, as of today (January 1, 2018) time has clearly revealed that Mr. Johnston's numerous prophecies have ALL been shown to be completely false, most notably his predictions concerning the Presidential election, the great worldwide "Storm" which he foretold would bring global economic collapse and civil strife, toppling governments throughout the globe, war with political Islam resulting with the mass conversion of most Muslims, then a war with China, and generalized  global chaos resulting in 26 million dead, all culminating with the miraculous "Rescue" apparition of the Blessed Virgin Mary to all of humanity, all of which was prophesied by Charlie to occur by the end of 2017. 

In conclusion, since Charlie's prophecies have now all been shown to be completely false, he joins the list of recent failed visionaries whose stories have been highlighted on this site, such as "Locutions to the World" and "Maria Divine Mercy", and together they provide a strong cautionary warning for all of us in regards to purported visionaries and mystics of past and present, urging us to be very cautious and prudent in our discernment concerning such persons,  reaffirming the statement and warning of St Paul of the Cross, the founder of the Passionists and great mystic himself, who once stated that 9 out of 10 purported visionaries are false.  Perhaps this estimation from St Paul of the Cross is a bit high, but then again perhaps not.  -Glenn Dallaire
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UPDATE, January 20, 2017: 
With the successful inauguration of President Donald Trump comes the unfulfilled conclusion to both parts of the alleged angelic “Presidential prophecy” of Charlie Johnston, namely that Obama will not finish his term and the next leader will not come from the political system (ie.-not elected), as detailed in the article below. It was a bold two-part prophecy that has now ended in a double fail.

When one claims to be a prophet of God, one’s life and most especially one’s prophecies are automatically held for scrutiny before the court of public opinion. In this court of public opinion, the preponderance of the evidence is what often initially sways one’s opinion, yet there eventually comes to pass certain very important matters for discernment, such as key prophecies, which depending on their eventual turnout, will considerably authenticate, or invalidate, the purported mission and message of such persons.  And when one compares the alleged angelic ‘Presidential prophecy’ against today’s successful inauguration, the conclusions to be drawn are self-evident.  

With the above being said, one would strongly suspect that today’s inauguration, which by all appearances completely invalidates the first formal public prophecy of Charlie Johnston, will likely be one of these aforementioned key matters for discernment that will have a decisive impact in judging his purported prophetic mission and message for a good many people.  For if a prophet is judged by his prophecies as the saying goes, then today’s failure of the purported angelic ‘Presidential prophecy’,  as detailed in the article below,  will for many persons surely bring with it an unfavorable judgment in what concerns the prophetic mission of Charlie Johnston. 

For in his blog post "The Election...and Other Potential Triggers" Charlie writes:
"...If, next January, Barack Obama peacefully hands over the reins of power to Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, I will declare myself unreliable and go away. But it will not happen that way, for God has appointed that this be a sign to you to fortify you to trust Him and choose the ordinary way to follow Him through the most frightening year for the globe in history."

And again, concerning today’s inauguration, for his part Charlie has also declared in his post entitled “Election day” on November 7th that:
 “…If, on January 20, Obama peacefully transfers power to either Trump or Clinton, I will declare myself unreliable and retire into silence.”  

With this pledge, one finds that today’s inauguration will bring with it not only the end of Obama’s term, but also the end of Charlie Johnston’s public blogging, speaking engagements, and future predictions, at least for a time, though the loss of credibility from today’s events will likely be permanent. 

And I say "for a time" simply because of Charlie's recent comments on his blog concerning the possibility of today's failure of his "Presidential prophecy", wherein he recently speaks about the possibility of being "recalled" by God into a silent, private period for some sort of remedial prophetic discernment re-training "for a time".

Nevertheless, for those who in good faith spread amongst their family, friends and coworkers Charlie's prediction concerning "Obama not finishing his term/next leader not coming from the political process", and who are now left feeling much like "the boy who cried wolf", one can only presume that any possible future prophetic predictions from Charlie will be given little or no credence, if not outright opposition by many who have followed his work and message, as is perhaps justifiably merited by today's developments. In the end, it is up to Archbishop Aquila of Denver to make any formal judgments concerning Charlie Johnston's private revelations.

As for this writer, I can say that while I have always been reluctant to highlight purported LIVING mystics and visionaries, I am even more so now after these recent events.

May God bless the United States of America, and all of humanity.
-Glenn Dallaire, January 20, 2017


Charlie Johnston during a recent FOCUS TV interview
The final days for the possible fulfillment of a purported Angelic prophecy 

By: Glenn Dallaire

Jan. 7, 2017 -Vigil of the Epiphany
Many readers of this website are familiar with the original article that I wrote back in January 2015 entitled  "Charlie Johnston -An alleged prophet with a critically important message for humanity".  In it I discussed at length Charlie's purported prophetic mission and message, along with a short biography of his life. And for the past two years it has been one of the most popular articles on this website.

Additionally, when the Archdiocese of Denver came out with a Statement in March 2016 concerning Mr. Johnston I published an article here discussing it.

The Presidential prophecy
In the past week, the comments beneath that original article have exploded (there are now currently a total of 770 comments), as has my email inbox, with most everyone commenting specifically on the angelic prophecy allegedly given to Charlie, which I have named "The Presidential prophecy":

"What I was told in the Spring of 2008 was that Barack Obama would win that year's election, that he would not finish his full term, and that the next stable national leader would not come from the political system."

The obvious reason for all of the recent attention to this specific alleged angelic prophecy is the upcoming scheduled Presidential Inauguration scheduled for this January 20th--just 2 weeks away from this writing. For his part, just yesterday Charlie published an article entitled "A Decisive Conundrum" which addresses this matter, in part.

This particular prophecy is the first of a series of alleged angelic prophesies concerning the world that are to occur mostly this year (2017). And since we are delving into this subject of alleged "Angelic" messages given to Charlie, it should be pointed out that the Angel whom has purportedly visited Charlie from childhood is the Archangel Gabriel, as was specifically revealed to Charlie during one of the "visitations". The other predictions that Charlie insists upon are highlighted in his article entitled "Go Forth". In it Charlie reveals eight worldwide events that are said to occur::

"I only have eight public prophecies that I insist on. Only the visible, miraculous Rescue by Our Lady, the Immaculate Conception in late 2017, is time sensitive. Five things must happen between now and the Rescue, but can happen at any time during that period. They are:

– The continued toppling of governments throughout the world, including that of the U.S. The toppling of a government does not mean the nation shall fall.

– The confrontation with and fall of political Islam.

– The mass conversion of most Muslims

– The confrontation between the Judeo-Christian world and the current government of China.

– The alliance between Russia and the U.S. to lead the Judeo-Christian world to endure the confrontation with China.

-Then, after the 5 things above comes the miraculous "Rescue" through the Immaculate Heart of Mary sometime in late 2017.

Then there are two prophecies that happen shortly after the Rescue. They are the unification of the faithful into one flock under one shepherd and the building and location of the Shrine of thanksgiving for the Rescue on Mount Meeker in Colorado.

Together these predicted events constitute for humanity what Charlie calls "The Storm"--a series of events which he states is already well underway. As of today (January 7, 2017), the most obvious observation concerning the prophesies above is that time is really running out for them to all happen before the miraculous Rescue in late 2017. Thus, from an intellectually reasoned perspective, it is probably readily apparent to many that such predictions are already a failure, given the time-frames involved for such things to occur in "real" time. But then, who really knows just yet? For God is not limited by our human constraints and He is always full of surprises.

It should be noted that the "Presidential prophecy" is NOT part of the eight public prophesies that Charlie insists upon. I don't know what bearing that may have, if any, in the upcoming days and weeks.

"God has appointed that this be a sign to you"
In his article "The Election...and Other Potential Triggers" Charlie writes:
"If, next January, Barack Obama peacefully hands over the reins of power to Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, I will declare myself unreliable and go away. But it will not happen that way, for God has appointed that this be a sign to you to fortify you to trust Him and choose the ordinary way to follow Him through the most frightening year for the globe in history."

Of course for now the big question at this point is whether or not the purported angelic prophecy concerning Obama not finishing his term/next leader not coming from the election process will come to pass as foretold in the remaining two weeks before the scheduled Presidential inauguration on January 20th. And the obvious implication in the opinion of many people is that this prophecy is key in determining whether Charlie is truly an authentic prophet, or not. For as the saying goes "A prophet is judged by his prophecies", or as Scripture tells us:

"And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken?’— when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not fear him." (Deuteronomy 18:21-22).

For his part, Charlie has stated numerous times that if this particular prophecy concerning Obama not finishing his term were to fail, with the presidency successfully transitioned to Donald Trump, that he will post one last post on his blog, then go away:
Charlie Johnston during a presentation in July 2016
charliej373 says:
"If there is a peaceful transition of power from Obama to Trump, I will go away. If there is not, be not afraid, God has a plan."

or again:
 charliej373 says:
December 17, 2016 at 2:54 pm
"Now, as I have said, if the inauguration goes on without incident, I will go away. "

or again:
charliej373 says:
"Certainly, if we have a normal inauguration a month from now, I will retire from the field, for that prophecy will have been objectively wrong. I take full responsibility for that. But it won’t change what you are called to do.

Noting that I do and will take responsibility, your standard would require you to dismiss St. Joan of Arc as a false prophet for the times she erred on saying how the battle would go – and many of the Old Testament prophets who were often off on their timing, sometimes by years. I do not say this to try to justify any error on my part. I strongly urge you to examine yourself and consider what God calls you to. But yep, a month from now if we have a normal inauguration, you can give me a big old thumbs down."

charliej373 says:
January 8, 2017 at 9:21 pm
"If the inauguration comes off, I will leave the public scene, because that is what it means to honorably take full responsibility. "

And so, even though this "Presidential prophecy" is not one of the eight public prophecies that Charlie insists upon, according to several statements he has made he does believe that if it fails to come to pass as foretold, this would be significant enough to merit and declare himself "unreliable" and "leaving the scene". Time will soon tell how things turn out. For his part, Charlie has "laid it on the line", so to speak. We need only wait, watch and pray. Events, or the lack thereof, will reveal the truth concerning Charlie's purported private revelations.

Given all of the recent interest in this particular prophecy as of late, along with the popularity of the original article here on this website concerning Charlie Johnston, I thought I would publish this new article so that those interested can comment on this matter freely and directly here. As always, all comments are published immediately on this website, without moderation. I only ask that commentators be charitable and considerate in their comments.

***UPDATE: FEBRUARY 16, 2017: Archdiocese of Denver: "Statement on false claim regarding Charlie Johnston’s messages"

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Anonymous said...

Fred: Joe has been a BOVOC - Burnt Out Victim of Charlie like a lot of us here. I agree that Charlie has attached himself to the Catholic Church and is somewhat of an embarrassment at this point, as the Archbishop pointed out and Glenn have pointed out Charlie represents Charlie, not the Church buy unfortunately the association is there.
We are down to a little over 12 hours at this point and things do not look good for Charlie - but he isn't going anywhere - trust me.

Jack Gallagher said...

To Snowy Owl at 4:17 PM, you said:

--begin quoted text--
And to those of you who have smeared Charlie's name for his past sins... which of you is innocent? Charlie plainly said he confessed his sins..and now you are judging him? You have set yourselves up as judge and jury above God who forgave him in the Holy Sacrament of Confession? O my.. woe are you who are passing judgement on your own souls.
--end quoted text--

The assertion that commentators on this site have "smeared Charlie's name for his past sins" is incorrect. That would be true only if those who raised the issue of Charlie being an "aggressive dater (of the full service variety)" were the ones who first brought the information to light, or if they put the information to use solely to attack Charlie, the man (which would be a logically fallacious "ad hominim" attack). But the words of admission were Charlie's, not those of the commentators here, from a post Charlie wrote in 2014 where he openly confessed to those gravely sinful acts (and I am the one who pointed out that the phrase "full service variety" has the specific meaning of full sexual intercourse, usually, but not always in the context of paid-for escort services) as having been a regular part of his life "until about a decade ago."

Remember, this site is devoted to discernment as to the veracity of the claim that Charlie has been communicating with God, either directly, or indirectly through the "angel Gabriel." The discussion of Charlie's admission-against-interest was at all times in the context of attempting to discern how it could make sense that Charlie would be receiving "messages from God" or from one of God's angels during a time in his life that he was engaging in such grave sin - vis-a-vis the norms of the Church concerning the discernment of the claims of any alleged mystic.

The non sequitur question "which of you is innocent?" contains the inherent logical fallacy of the "appeal to emotion" - as a substitute for a valid point. But your question is misplaced in this case because no commentator attempting discernment on this blog has ever made a claim to be speaking with God or an angel of God.

But Charlie has made such a claim. There are those of us who has how could that have been true during the same time frame that Charlie admits to engaging in grave sexual sin, a time frame of which L Spinelli helpfully pointed out occurred after Charlie says he consecrated all actions of his life to God through Mary in 1997.

None here have set themselves up "as judge and jury above God" of Charlie. It is no slander to repeat Charlie's words about himself in the context of discerning whether he is being truthful in describing his claims of communication with God or "his angel." We simply ask how could it be the case that God or an angel of God would communicate with a person who would engage in such sinful acts after making a life-consecration to Mary? This accusation that you make here, along with the accusation that we are "passing judgment on our own souls" is a combination of the logical fallacies of "ad hominem attack" (you attack us as persons) and "tu quoque argument" (where you avoid having to engage the substance of our question/criticism by simply turning back criticism upon us - and in this case, unfounded criticism).

Your emotionalism on this topic is understandable from the perspective of one who is defensive of anything critical said about Charlie, but I find this to be an odd response from you, who claim that belief in Charlie, the man - being a prophet - is not what is important. If discernment of the truth, or lack thereof, of Charlie's claims and prophecies is not important, why would you be a reader of a blog for which that is the stated goal?

Joe said...

Who here has slandered Charlie and what did they say because I don't see it.

Jack Gallagher said...
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Glenn Dallaire said...


At this moment in time, here is my own personal take:

Charlie says that he has been sent by God to help humanity through an upcoming "Storm."

To me, the most important question at hand then is whether Charlie truly is an authentic messenger appointed and chosen by God, as he (Charlie) himself claims to be?

Has he truly been sent? Has he really "told us true"?

His authenticity is what is in question, and is what is at stake.

Up to now everything has come from Charlie--resting upon his own word. For anyone can make such claims based on their own word.

Now, with this purported angelic prophecy, it seems to me that it is now time for God to confirm his alleged mission, or not.

If tomorrow's inauguration takes place as scheduled, then Charlie's credibility with most people will likely be permanently lost. For a prophet is judged by his prophecies, as the saying goes.

There you have my own .02 cents, for whatever it is worth.

Barring any unscheduled events, I will be updating this article above tomorrow shortly after 12 noon. The update will be posted at the beginning (top) of the article.

Thanks everyone for your comments thus far. Please remember to be charitable and considerate to everyone in your comments here.
Glenn Dallaire

Glenn Dallaire said...


Sorry Jack! As you know, normally all comments are posted immediately HOWEVER the comment section here has a built-in "automatic" spam filter, which occasionally puts comments into a "spam" folder (for what flags, I don't really know), and such was the case with your comment. I usually try and check this spam folder a couple of times a day, and so after reading your message above I checked and saw your comment in there I immediately released it.

Once again my apologies for the delayed release.
-Glenn Dallaire

Joe said...

Jack. TNRSers seem to make a lot of claims and accusations, but when they are called out to give direct evidence for them, they get defensive and have no straight answers. They are only displaying characteristics they have learned from their leader.

Fred Keyes said...

Joe, I can feel your pain, I was attacked vehemently myself, but it didn't bother me. Greg's point remains though—Charlie may be a hard cus, and half-baked on some of his personal opinions and manners, but in the past God has chosen such people to accomplish His ends, so we can't say never until the fat lady sings. We will know soon enough.

Glenn Dallaire said...


To Anonymous @ 7:33pm
You said
"Question; at this late hour, how could the prophecy of "Obama will not finish his term" possibly come true, given that he lives to "repent'" sometime in the future? Even assuming a cataclysmic even tomorrow, what circumstances could possibly dictate that Obama lives and yet does not finish his term?"

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Because of your question, and another person on Charlie's site who made a comment about how "Obama would leave office in disgrace", for the sake of the record I searched and found the following comment from Charlie site from 2015:

From the August 2, 2015 article “My New Pilgrimage”:
charliej373 says:
August 2, 2015 at 9:30 pm
Donette, I said bluntly on the Birmingham Video that President Obama will not finish his term. I said that he would be eledted before he received the nomination to my priests, that he would lead us into the fullness of the Storm, that he would leave office in chaos and disgrace before his term was finished, and would live to convert in the end.
———

Glenn Dallaire

Joe said...

Great catch Glenn! I went back and took a screenshot of him saying that he did not say obama would leave in disgrace in case he tries to delete it.

Anonymous said...

Now this is interesting, Beckita actually responds to someone who requests a time-frame and actually gets an answer and a link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZGEFFV_EhDNK93i71pbpwpjIH5skPBUwC798vY9JcWk/edit

Now this seems too convenient?
First of all it authored by the TNRS Team and it takes full responsibility for the information. Here are the first few paragraphs dealing with the Archbishop's office, notice the article says its the Archbishop who told Charlie to not emphasis prophesy.
                   
"Before looking at the broad sweep of where we are and what is to come, it’s important to note the significance of the decision made by Charlie’s local ordinary, Archbishop Aquila of the Archdiocese of Denver, which was released in March of this year.

The Archdiocesan commission appointed by Archbishop Aquila studied Charlie for more than a year, monitoring his blog in addition to tracking Charlie's speaking tours. The commission had access to the archives of his mystical experiences as well as the opportunity to consult with Charlie's three spiritual directors. Truly, had there been one iota of something awry, Charlie would have been dismissed as inauthentic.

Instead, Archbishop Aquila informed Charlie that he was to continue with his writing as well as continue with his speaking tours. The Archbishop wisely cautioned the faithful to refrain from over-emphasizing the prophetic messages. Further, Charlie is not allowed to speak on Church property in the Archdiocese of Denver. This, too, is wisdom.

Charlie has not yet had an investigative study which would determine a status as described by the norms for evaluating private revelation which come from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith at the Vatican. Therefore, allowing him to speak on Church property in the Denver Archdiocese could well look as though Charlie's mystical experiences were already officially approved as authentic. That evaluation is yet to be done. Usually, a bishop waits to make that kind of decision *after* someone’s mystical experiences come to conclusion.

In the meanwhile, Charlie has the full blessing of Archbishop Aquila to continue as he is. Thus, one can see evidence of the Gamaliel approach: surely if this is of God it will flourish; if not, it will wither and die. See: https://charliej373.wordpress.com/2016/03/07/the-gamaliel-option/"

The second part is the time-frame and never mentions Obama not finishing his office - I wonder why.

Folks, the Charlie spin masters are out in full force.
Why did Joe Crozier and Snow Owl show up today of all days? Don't forget these people have a team and they work together, they plan together.
These people are not done, right or wrong Charlie will be still be here.
I've watched Charlie for a while don't forget he claims he was a politico in Chicago, he even admitted knowing how to play the game. Charlie is a master of deception - scrubbing negative posts to make everything appear in his favor and to his favor.

Joe said...

I agree that God could choose anyone. I have never equated Charlie's past sins with his ability to be a prophet. We all have our own struggles. You are right we will see soon enough

Anonymous said...

I have a theory. I believe when Charlie met the Archbishop's office I'll bet this is what happened: the Diocese was supportive of his catholic work, but the prophecies and visions and visitors were another thing, so they probably agreed that he could continue on his "work", but not on Church property and that if he failed in his 1st official ( there probably were other prophecies ) prophecy, Charlie agreed he would step away and go into semi-seclusion, Charlie's site would be allowed to stay but have someone else run it as a good shepherd catholic site, if some of the other prophecies materialized he could appeal to the diocese to re-enter the field again.
Charlie agreed to be obedient to the Archbishop. I believe Charlie has no choice but to leave if he is wrong, this saves the diocese from sanctioning him and allows Charlie to leave the scene in a somewhat dignified manner, but this is the bigger issue, if Charlie is half right on his prophesy I think he is going to plead check mark or qualified check mark with his followers begging him to stay and pleading the diocese to allow him back in the field.

Anonymous said...

This from Snowy Owl on Charlie's site: "Joe, I was happy to see you there and what you said was wonderful!!! So..so far I am ‘snowduck’ and ‘snowball’ because I won’t type out a linear 1-10 line-up of Charlie’s correct prophecies. I asked them why they can’t come and read what’s written in black and white for themselves..or read and ask Charlie a real question instead of a loaded question. AND also asked why so many of them are *Anonymous* there? Strange"

You can actually see the spin used by Snowy Owl - if you go back we didn't ask for a 1-10 line up of Charlie's correct prophecies, we asked 1) what were Charlie's mostly correct prophecies - it appears this may not exist. 2) direct us where we can find this information - are these so difficult? Is that a loaded question? It's straight forward to me.

I think we mentioned why we can not post on Charlie's we'd get thrown out. You can not ask questions to Charlie without him blocking you. We'd love to ask Charlie questions.

As for anonymous, it was easier to post at first so that's why I stuck with it. Is Snowy Owl or Snowy Duck or Snow Ball an identity - it's still anonymous.

Also, notice NO answer. Charlie does not even respond to Snowy Owl what does that tell you?

davidabott said...

Uh, the most scandalous thing is not Johnston, but the fact that many believe this ridiculousness. Think of someone who actually has their head on straight, who is looking into the faith, he comes across Johnston and thinks well, just another quack, but then he sees many Catholics actually buying this crap. Even a priest like Mitch Pacqua is listening to him and taking him seriously. I mean really!? The person who saw this would have second thoughts about the faith after seeing that, he may believe we are all nuts. I mean, I watched the guy's video on Birmingham, how any one could buy that after 10 minutes is beyond me. So many tell tale signs of bs

davidabott said...

Wow

Anonymous said...

Notice both Snowy and Joe Crozier don't answer any questions posed to them, So what was their purpose to come here? To defend Charlie? No, to cause trouble, if they came here to post they would have wanted to dialogue with us, the fact they didn't answer or dialogue shows cowardice and running scared. Charlie is on his last legs and he knows it - he has less than 12 hours to fulfill his prophesy of Obama not finishing his term and Trump not being inaugurated. Charlie is saying his good-byes, he knows he is done and he has to leave the scene.

Anonymous said...

Dear davidabott, that's why we're here to debunk it, I'm sure in your life you've been taken to in by someone or something - we all have. Charlie does not represent Catholics he represents Charlie.

Anonymous said...

Father Mitch Pacqua never endorsed Charlie, he went to a meeting of his and Charlie's followers and Charlie assumed this was an endorsement. There never was and never has been an endorsement from Father Pacqua. There is no harm in listening to someone that's how you find out if he/she is legit.

Jack Gallagher said...

AS far as this contention goes about how there are lots of examples on Charlie's blog from January 2014 forward of prophecies that he has gotten mostly right, I for one, have read nearly all of Charlie's posts from beginning to end. I have also searched many of the posts with word searches using ctl-f so as to find key words and phrases such as "I was told" "was told" or simply "told", along with "told you true" or just "true" and many other words and phrases.

I did this because Charlie claimed to one commentator on his blog that he made the effort to describe any actual communications from his "angel" - as opposed to simply his interpretation of things he had been "shown" - with the phrase "I have told you true." The only prophecy I can find where he uses this phrase is the Presidential Prophecy. So there really is nothing in the way of any other actual prophecy that Charlie has ascribed to having been directly told by his "angel" in existence on his blog.

This is a necessary distinction. That is because whenever Charlie makes a statement that sounds like a prophecy, but where he doesn't use the phrase, "I was told" or "I have told you true," Charlie and his followers disavow any accountability upon Charlie when the claim proves false.

There's that, as well as his many defenses against those who have criticized him for claiming something that didn't pan out, which always has been along the lines of "you aren't informed about what my angel specifically told me, and I'm under no obligation to tell you now, but my interpretation of what I was shown is still valid because what I claimed actually did happen, but not in the way you presumed it should have."

Contrast that to times when he's in a better mood and one of his avid supporters asks, meekly, a question about how he communicates with his "angel". In those instances, he still won't divulge what was actually said, but will strongly imply that his interpretations and explanations, where he uses different words than his "angel," are solid, and he stands by them 100%.

I'll make the attempt to dig some examples of these latter instances. Neither Charlie, nor his defenders, can have it both ways.

Anonymous said...

It was Charlie who said not once but twice in the last 2 weeks that he was mostly right on his prophecies, I can see him making the statement once and say he misspoke but he said it again! I quoted the first one on this site, but not the second.
Now they're claiming it's the Archbishop who told him to veer away from the prophecies.

Anonymous said...

We have less than 12 hours to inauguration, they're monitoring DC for nuclear spikes, there's been 2 in the last while.

Jack Gallagher said...

To Anonymous at 12:36 AM,

Yes and of course that is misleading, because in the statement from the Archbishop of Denver, it was intimated that Charlie was the one who claimed his prophecies weren't the important part of his work, which led them to their first bone of contention when they said something to the effect of "it is those prophecies which attract new followers and give them a sense of urgency and zeal."

Anonymous said...

I don't know if you saw this on Charlie's site, they can't answer our questions, but they made this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZGEFFV_EhDNK93i71pbpwpjIH5skPBUwC798vY9JcWk/edit
I posted it at 10;40 pm.

Joe Crozier said...

Charlie has confirmed that I don't make him cringe. He knows I am "all in" as you put it, for Jesus, not for Charlie. He is all in for Jesus alone too. That's all that matters. You seem to be doing you best to besmirch our names and to cheapen our witness. Others have done the same. As far as I am able I do forgive you. I hope God does too. I hope you come to enjoy all the health, wealth and happiness that I could ever wish for myself. May God bless you abundantly and put you right. May you know the peace of God. Snowy can fight her own corner but she is not on her own. She's a real champion. Well able, with God's grace, for anything and anyone.

Anonymous said...

Was Charlie's prophecy that Obama would not finish his term, or was it that Obama would not finish his term AND he would leave office in disgrace?

Anonymous said...

I needed to wake up this morning and see this headline:

" Political Islam and China surround inauguration grounds, taking Obama hostage "

Then all this might have made some sense. But even with that headline, a myriad of things had to effectively fall into place.and fast.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous right above.. You are correct.
The actual headline would have had to have been:

" Political Islam and China surround inauguration grounds, taking DISGRACED Obama hostage "

Anonymous said...

You won't get an answer from any of Charlie's people.
This is the difference between Charlie's site and Glenn's site, Glenn allows comments Charlie does not. I made a comment about one year ago about forgiving Charlie and his followers for mocking me and Charlie did not have the decency to allow the comment, Glenn does.
Charlie I forgive you and Joe Crozier and your followers for your vile comments directed at me and also for making fun of me while I was on your site. I have no ill will or intent toward any of you.

Joe said...

Take your fake holy rolling pompous act elsewhere. You can't even answer a few simple questions.

Joe said...

Today is a huge day for Charlie and his followers. Yet, instead of talking about this major prophecy, they are talking about how somone got their name wrong on another site and it hurt their feelings. Or how somone suggested that what he said made Charlie cringe. Come on TNRSers! This is your big day and you spend it worrying about what people are saying on another site. What a joke this has become. I know Charlie says he will not feel bad, when he is wrong, but this guy seriously needs to repent and get back right with God.

Anonymous said...

Charlie's assertions to be a political mastermind often annoy me. I tried to leave a comment on his latest post, but it was rejected. Charlie wrote:

By this time tomorrow, we will know whether or not there has been a peaceful transfer of power from Barack Obama to Donald Trump. If there is not, it will be apparent to all but the most obtuse that we have a brutal year ahead and much to confront. If there is, no one can argue that this has not been the most tense, chaotic transition of our lifetimes. Unless the anti-God progressives stand down on their serial assaults on the lawful order, we have a brutal year ahead and much to confront.

I have thought a lot about what to put up as we enter these moments. Whatever happens tomorrow, the world is in serious trouble. Each of us will have to choose whether to follow God in simplicity and humility, whether to live solidarity with each other or tear each other apart in chaotic times. Then we must take responsibility for the things we say and we do. The process I described in the piece, “All In,” is one that everyone of us will have to live to endure this year.

I will have a post up on Saturday. Whether it is my last or not is in God’s hands. I have spoken candidly, boldly without giving counsel to fear – and take full responsibility for it. As this year unfolds each of us will have to do the same. This will help.-CJ)


Charlie is exaggerating as usual. This is not the worst transition in living memory.

The transition from FDR to Truman was sudden and horrifying at that time; FDR was the president who had guided the country through Depression and a war still raging in the Pacific. Just as bad was the transition from JFK to LBJ, a bloody televised assassination and swearing in on an airplane, coming not long after the Cuban Missile Crisis. Then there was Nixon's abrupt resignation and the long-derided Ford's assumption of power.

It's arguable that the 2000 election was worse than 2016, with its hanging chads and a lawsuit that went all the way to the Supreme Court, Bush v. Gore. Didn't many of the same Democrats boycott Bush's swearing in?

And protests in 1968 were more violent than the protests surrounding Trump in Washington and elsewhere have been to date (I'm writing this two hours-plus from noon).
He needs to keep his followers in a lather to accomplish his purpose. How much more doom and gloom will they buy?

Glenn Dallaire said...


To ALL:
I deleted a few of the recent comments simply because they were not all that charitable and really did not further discernment or discussion of the topic at hand.

Please lets remember to exercise our shared Christian values when commenting. Thanks in advance!
Glenn Dallaire

David said...

I would like to comment on this response yesterday by Charlie:

"charliej373 says:
January 19, 2017 at 6:01 pm

Oh, not to worry. The website would continue under the editorship of Beckita – and the archives would remain so people can peruse them to find solace or poke fun at. I would not jerk the rug out from under this wonderful community of believers. I would just be absent from it…at least for a time, if it were only a false dawn. But if things were to amazingly smooth out, then we would have gotten what we prayed for without so much strife – and our prayers would have contributed to it."

I was struck by the last sentence: "But if things were to amazingly smooth out, then we would have gotten what we prayed for without so much strife – and our prayers would have contributed to it."

In an October 2015 post "Be Not Afraid" Charlie said:

"Some pray for mitigation of the Storm. They think they do well, but what they are actually praying for is mitigation of the consequences of what we have wrought. Over the last century, that sort of mitigation has been given – and the result has been the continued loss of masses of souls to eternity because of our stubborn, stiff-necked rebellion. For the last century, every time God has shielded us from the consequences of our stupid vanity, we have simply doubled down, thinking the mitigation proof that we are in control and do not need God. Our preening arrogance has formed a deadly cancer on the Mystical Body of Christ. All we ever had to do to rid ourselves of the cancer was to embrace humility and our need for God. Every time the Lord has mitigated the symptoms, we have doubled down on our arrogance, making the cancer worse. God is not using the Storm we have wrought to destroy us, but as a form of Divine Chemotherapy guaranteed to rid us of the cancer and leave us healthier than ever. The Storm, used as God is now using it, IS an act of Divine Mercy. It is an act of supreme folly to pray for delivery from the cure rather than from the cancer."

So in his 2016 post he seems to suggest we shouldn't pray for mitigation, and then in his post yesterday he seems to take the position that it was OK that we prayed for mitigation because "...we would have gotten what we prayed for without so much strife."

I might be misinterpreting either his former or his latest position on prayer for mitigation. But I'm confused.

Glenn Dallaire said...


Yes, this is a very good observation David. It seems to be a dramatic switch from what was initially perceived as a static, unchangeable prophecy to a conditional prophecy.

Anonymous said...

This comment is to Brendan Triffett,and the others here who spoke about the "Surrender Prayer." This prayer was given by Jesus to Father Dolindo Ruotolo. It is a truly beautiful prayer and brings much peace. "Father Don Dolindo Ruotolo a Neapolitan priest (1882-1970), stigmatized miracle worker and "mouthpiece of the Holy Spirit".

Father Ruotolo had extraordinary communications with Jesus throughout his heroic life, a life that was totally devoted to God and Holy Mother Mary. He referred to himself as "the Madonna's little old man" and the Rosary was his constant companion."

Here is a link to the prayer for anyone interested.
http://howtofindpeace.org/dolindo-ruotolo-how-to-find-peace.html

Fred Keyes said...

At this point one can say that the part of the prophecy that had President Obama not completing his term is patently false. With minutes to go before the inauguration only the most narrow of interpretations would claim he did not complete his term.

Anonymous said...

I'm watching TV and Obama is still in office and he has a little over 1/2 hour to leave office.

Anonymous said...

President Obama looks like he may cry at any minute and leave! He can not believe he is gone.

Fred Keyes said...

Anonymous at 11:31: Perhaps it is you and Charlie's unquestioning faithful who cannot believe he served out his full term and is more than happy to be relieved of the heavy responsibilities of the office of POTUS. May God keep our new President safe, and may he be inspired to live according to God's will. Please relieve yourselves of these bizarre fantasies that you all engage in. Peace.

Anonymous said...

Fred: lighten up of course he won't leave, but he does look like he is about to cry - he never wanted to leave.

Fred Keyes said...

Transfer of power taking place as I key in this post. Looks quite peaceful. Game over, Charlie.

Anonymous said...

Thanks be to God, a peaceful transition has occurred. No matter what you feel, what a day. What an accomplishment for democracy when two such opposing political view points can be transitioned without violence. Thank you God for this blessing- it Doesn't happen everyday. So whike the "storm" will be here tomorrow, I rejoice today and beg God to bless us all.

God Bless the United States of America.

Anonymous said...

And it is done. God bless our new president.

Anonymous said...

Oooooops. Looks like Charlie was wrong!

Fred Keyes said...

11:56: And you know this because?

Glenn Dallaire said...


For those interested (and those who have not yet noticed) I just published an important update at the top of this article above concerning today's inauguration.

-May God bless all who visit here.
Glenn Dallaire

Don T said...

Glenn, I suggest you remove all traces of CharlieJ from your site as he was so adamant himself about the failure of other alleged prophets, he needs to go away.

L Spinelli said...

God just bestowed a huge blessing on us. Keep praying for our new President, and keep Charlie in our prayers. This was his LTTW moment.

Glenn Dallaire said...


Hi Don,
My job here is to report truthfully and impartially, that those interested may discern for themselves, using the information provided here and elsewhere. "We report, you discern" as I have said here in the past. And so, in my opinion, the articles concerning Charlie Johnston should remain here, for the sake of the record.

Thanks for your comments!
Glenn Dallaire

Joe said...

It is time now for the Catholic church to come out and publicly cut all ties with Charlie Johnston.

Brendan Triffett said...

Charlie was wrong --- agreed. I still think there is or will be something like a Storm though (who knows when it will peak or when it will subside and how that might happen.) I am not advocating devotion to Charlie. Just think it is important to distinguish the Storm concept from Charlie the man. God bless us all. We are all brothers and sisters in Christ; let us not be divided by lack of charity. Truth AND mercy.

Joe said...

I am done with Seers, Mystics, Healers. All these type of people are just giving the Catholic Church a bad name. I will just focus on the Sacraments from now on.

LittleBee said...

Thank you Glenn, and all those who have posted thoughtful, well-reasoned commentary about this issue. I have learned some things about our Catholic Church's discernment process. Visiting this topic on your blog has also led me to reading much about some of the lesser-known mystics of the Church, particularly Gabrielle Bossis, whose book I have ordered to get to know her better! With deep gratitude for your exceptional and enduring effort to maintain this blog with integrity to the Magisterium.

Anonymous said...

I am ruined. I was a follower of Charlie on his blog for more than two years. I always believed him, till the very last minute.

I gave credit to these false prophecies, and now I am ruined. Predicting an economic collapse mean that you move your goods. Does this mean to take the right steps? Yes, if the prophecy is truth. Otherwise, prophecy in advance would not make any sense. Now I am ruined. And now Jonhston will retire in silence learning piano as if nothing happened. I repeat, I ruined.

What will I do?

I feel depressed.

L Spinelli said...

Joe, wide words with one caveat. Stick to Church approved prophecies and mystics. You can never go wrong that way.

L Spinelli said...

Sorry, I meant wise words!

Anonymous said...

I AM TIRED ABOUT THESE FALSE STUFF. FIRST THE LOCUTIONS TO THE WORLD, I FOLLOWED, I BELIEVED AND FAIL. CHARLIE JOHNSTON LAUGHING ABOUT FOLLOWERS OF LTTW, AS IF WE WERE FOOLS. THEN I DECIDE TO BELIEVE HIM TELLING EVERYONE THAT THIS TIME IT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED, EVERYTIME JOHNSTON SAYD "IT HAPPENS, IT WILL HAPPENS, CAN'T BE WRONG". AND NOW? FIRST TIME NO ONE BELIEVED ME WHEN I WAS SHARING PROPHECIES OF LTTW, IT FAILED. JOHNSTON SEEMS TO BE ACCURATE, BUT THEN HE STARTED TO DON'T BELIEVE IN WHAT HE SAID HIMSELF. AND NOW? NO ONE WILL BELIEVE A SINGLE WORD OF WHAT I WILL SAY!

MANY, MANY PEOPLE ARE IN MY SAME SITUATION NOW.

DO PROPHETS ARE JUDGED FROM THEIR FRUITS?? HERE ARE THE FRUITS!!!!

Anonymous said...

Fred: I was live streamimg former President Obama it looked like he was going to cry. I don't like Obama but I'll give him credit for bowing his head and closing his eyes during prayers.

Anonymous said...

AND THE THING IS THAT HE WILL EVEN NEVER KNOW I EVER EXISTED OR FORGET ABOUT THAT AFTER ONE MINUTE!!! BUT I'M TAKING ALL THE S**T IN MY FACE NOW!

Brendan Triffett said...

Dear ruined Anonymous.
You are not ruined spiritually. You have the Sacraments and God's vast mercy. You have the Church. Please hold on and let people minister to you. I don't know who you are but I love you as a member of the body of Christ. Do not isolate yourself or give in to despair. My prayers are with you. This message goes out to all others in the same boat. Confide in Mary and Joseph. You are not alone. Turn this to good. Minister to others. Form a community to support others like you. I feel for you ...

Anonymous said...

I'm very careful with these things, talk is cheap, we need to look at the whole person and the situation, Charlie had way too many issues, he had a better marketing plan than he lead on, but he is not dead, he will keep coming back, our job is to contact his diocese to report our individual findings to them so that he doesn't make the Church look bad.
Additionally, we really need to look at that full term issue because this could have been averted in 2012 rather than wait for this. Charlie and some of his followers will spin this to lead people astray so we still need to be proactive.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous who feels 'ruined' Please know that you are in my prayers. As others have said, the most terrible feeling is feeling 'taken in' by someone else. Jesus knows your heart and He loves you. He knows the longing of your heart and He wants to heal you. Please find healing in the Mass and sacraments. He is there and He loves you.

Anonymous said...

Charlie says: I said that I will go away – and I will after my final column tomorrow. The website will continue, edited by Beckita.

Brendan Triffett said...

I call upon everyone here who loves Christ to give welcome love and support to those who were burnt. Speak the truth about Charlie yes, but do not make him the focus. The right thing to do now is support our brothers and sisters. Maybe some other forum could be devoted to this task also?

Anonymous said...

Joe Crozier states he will also go in silence.

Fred: I'm still living streaming and Obama looks like he is going to cry. He's chocked up.

Anonymous said...

As I've called us BOVOCs - Burnt Out Victims of Charlie.

Brendan Triffett said...

Last comment from me though about Charlie. His final post should end with 'I told you false.'

Glenn Dallaire said...


Dear Anonymous who feels 'ruined',

About 8 years ago I went through a similar trial in my own personal life concerning a certain alleged visionary. While such experiences can be spiritually and emotionally painful, they also teach us humility and wisdom among other things, and we grow and learn from them in various ways. These difficult life experiences purify us. Turn to Jesus and Mary with renewed sincerity and trust and you will soon find peace in all of it. God heals such wounds in time, and we end up the better for having experienced it.

May God bless you and your loved ones,
Glenn Dallaire

L Spinelli said...

Anon @ 1:01,

Additionally, we really need to look at that full term issue because this could have been averted in 2012 rather than wait for this.

Hardly anyone knew who Charlie was or what he was about in 2012. (I didn't then either, but he was featured in Spirit Daily prior to 2012. I didn't pay it much heed.) People were following his "pilgrimage" that was documented on Facebook at the time, but he didn't go viral until late 2014.

Sure, we could have been spared a lot of anxiety, but thank God that it's all over.

Joe said...

He really does owe everyone an apology.

Fred Keyes said...

I agree with Brendan Triffett above, with a twist. I believe that there is a storm, but that we have been in it since the 60s and the sexual revolution. IMO, there has not been a special storm starting with the North Koreans' nuclear test a few users ago as Charlie said. The political unrest that has gone on in this country and the terror attacks in other countries, serious as they have been, are logical consequences of a "storm" that has been underway for many years. The timeline of how this storm will play out is unknown. That a legitimate prophet may come along is always a possibility, or signs that draw the fallen-away back to Christ. But right now we have what we have, and our cross must be carried--joyfully.

What we have been getting from Charlie is an elaborate conspiracy theory, now with a monkey wrench thrown into the theory. That skepticism of his version of the "Storm" is the result of "normalcy bias" as Charlie told one poster, is merely the knee-jerk response to anyone who doubts a conspiracy theorist.

I wish Charlie all the best as he heads into a period of discernment. May the Truth be with him.

Dutchman1847 said...

Glenn,

Excellent summary!

In my view, God's hand is clearly resting on President Trump who has placed the United States once again under God's dominion and authority.

I believe a host of good angels flooded into the US as our new leader invoked God's help and guidance in restoring virtue and driving out vice.

President Trump's election and peaceful inauguration clearly are a sign of hope from God.

Thank you for hosting and allowing this honest but difficult discussion of many varied issues.

Joe said...

I knew Charlie was false the moment I saw how defensive and nasty he got whenever he was challenged.

Anonymous said...

Do not let your hearts be troubled, read the Gospel of John 14. Jesus is the Way, Truth and Life. Go speaks to us through His Holy Catholic Church. God did not bestow the Keys of His Kingdom upon Charlie Johnston. We are blessed to have Pope Francis as God's Representative on earth. St. Catherine of Siena lived through extremely chatoic times and referred to the Holy Father as "Sweet Christ on Earth".

Charlie may claim to be God's "Sherpa" but God never fails to protect us through the infallible office of "Peter".

I pray for all of my brothers and sisters who may now be suffering from the "doomsday" prophetic aspects of CJ's message. Pope Francis recently spoke about this problem in the Church today by exhorting the faithful to live the very clear message of Jesus by loving God and neighbor.

This is why the Church has taken great pains to discern visionaries and their message.

Even the true messages of an approved Apparition such as Our Lady Of Fatima can be used to cause division when the authority given to us by God is challenged. Charlie Johnston claims that he was given a better interpretation of the third secret of Fatima and Fr. Gruner (may he rest in peace) spent his life promoting his own version of the Fatima message. The true message of Fatima which began in 1916 with Angelic Apparitions and continued with the public visible sign promised by Our Blessed Mother on October 13, 1916 is a true prophetic message for our time.

The heroic virtues of Blessed Jacinta and Francisco have already been recognized and the long-suffering heroic virtues of the third child, Lucia will no doubt also be confirmed by God's Holy Catholic Church.

As a balm for those who now feel burned by the message of CJ, reconnect to the message and hope of Fatima.

"In the end, My Immaculate Heart WILL triumph". As we all depend upon God's mercy let us pray for one another in Union with Our Lord Jesus in John 17.

Father God, please grant us the love and fellowship of Your Holy Spirit so that we may be your effective witnesses in the world today. Through the Sacred Heart of Jesus, the Immaculate Heart of Mary and the Most Chaste Heart of St. Joseph, Protector of Your One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Amen

Fred Keyes said...

Anonymous 1:09: Yes, Obama was choked up. And you know why?

Dutchman1847 said...

Glenn,

Excellent summary!

In my view, God's hand is clearly resting on President Trump who has placed the United States once again under God's dominion and authority.

I believe a host of good angels flooded into the US as our new leader invoked God's help and guidance in restoring virtue and driving out vice.

President Trump's election and peaceful inauguration clearly are a sign of hope from God.

Thank you for hosting and allowing this honest but difficult discussion of many varied issues.

Jack Gallagher said...

Just finished reading your summary Glenn. It is cogently written from the perspectives of both reporting the facts and drawing conclusions from the discernment process. It leaves emotions out of it, which is an object lesson for all concerned.

Joe said...

Mathew 7:15 Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep but are really vicious wolves

Anonymous said...

I agree that it is necessary for everyone to pray and to remember charity. Precisely out of charity, it is necessary to state that those who blindly followed Charlie against all argument to the contrary need to admit their error, make a good examination of conscience, go to Confession and do penance. Some of them even demonized those who challenged Charlie.

David M. said...

I had never posted to Charlie's site before, but I posted the following today:


I am thankful that the transition was peaceful, and I feel as if a great burden has been lifted away.

All those who carefully considered Charlie’s message must now begin the deliberate and methodical winnowing of all that is good (and of God) that is found in his messages–and with the help and inward eyes of the Holy Spirit begin the process of scrupulously discarding that which was and is error, that which was and is human distortion–and perhaps even not of God.

Blessings to all during this solemn time of introspection and discernment and prayer, and may the peace of Christ be with you all.


For those of you on this site who find theselves drawn toward snide exultation--I think you probably ought to take a long look at that, because that has no part of Christ. That is from the enemy.

Peace be with you all.

Charles Ryder said...

Charlie Johnston's prediction that there would not be a peaceful transition of presidential power is wrong. I always found Charlie to be a learned and spiritual man. I like his advice to "acknowledge God, take the next right steep in front of you and be a sign of hope to others" no matter what happens. Charlie is not a perfect man. His thoughts on government workers was unncessarily harsh and off topic. He's going to withdraw from the scene. Leave him alone.


And no one should be telling people in blog comments to go to Confession.

Anonymous said...

Well, he's a fake - FACTS.

Jim M said...

We can give thanks that the "prophecy" was not fulfilled. We can give thanks that we now know how to judge those predictions.

As Glenn said, we are directed to carefully discern and to judge not by words by by acts. Some were misled, some caught on from the beginning and others chose not to despise prophecy but to take care in discernment.

What Saddens me a bit is how this impacts Charlie himself. He was so sure, so resolute. To have the burden of misleading so many must be tragic, and if it is in our collective hearts, let's offer up a prayer for him.

My experience with Charlie was much like Glenn's. His messages did not contradict Doctrine or Faith. But Charlie changed.

When he first started his blog, I saw a man tempered by humility and a lack of self pretense. As his followers grew, I saw a change. From being content with a message on a board to recruiting followers to arrange for nationwide rock star type sessions. No he did not travel first class, nor did he stay in 5 star hotels, but the clamor for his presence and his willingness to go on tour so to speak were a bit offputting. At some point, it became relatively clear that this had transitioned into messages around God's word to the voice of Charlie.

And so too, his tone of engagement with posters on his site changed form thoughtful and permissive, trying to see the nest in each message, to reactionary and confrontational. And permitting direct confrontation by proxy through loyal disciples who were all too ready to jump to his defense.

He seemed to revert back to his political campaign worker mode rather than the role of a self proclaimed messenger of God.

God does chastise us for our sins. And often does so to keep us from going off a cliff. When you puff up with pride and hubris, you will be humbled. I know this as fact for I have been there personally. And if not for the hand of God, I would likely be in dire straights without that admonition.

Perhaps there was a point where messages were genuine. And perhaps there was some validity in his earliest messages. What became clear to me was that he was pressing in an attempt to "play to the crowd", and may have been directed by other than heavenly forces. His time and date predictions shocked me, particularly after he railed about the Locutions time and place prediction as being a sign of something not of Heaven.

Christian Charity teaches us to be ready to help those that fall back on their feet. Despite what they have done in the past. Forgiveness of seventy times seven.

This is certainly a day to let out a sigh of relief, but not to pour salt into the wounds of a a stricken man who, despite this event, appears to be a decent man.

And by the way, none of us are ever ruined. The things of this world are mere vapor; mere illusions. God provides us what we need for the journey through this life, not the means to set up an eternal abode. What we lose, by His will and good grace, we obtain again. Be solicitous not of tomorrow, for tomorrow will take care of itself.

Anonymous said...

There is one guy on Charlie's site who said he followed him from Day 1 and believed his prophecies and spent thousands of dollars on preparation and asks Charlie for an apology, Charles's response, 1st sentence only: Karl, if you lost money because you put it towards preparations when I told you to trust God and not focus on preparations other than prudent things you could easily afford, that is not my fault.

All I can say is beware! A fool and his money are soon parted. As I've said before you are better off to be skeptical than not, Charlie's followers were all in - the non-skeptical crowd, and now Charlie is whizzing off with you holding the bag - nice.

Anonymous said...

And by the way, none of us are ever ruined. The things of this world are mere vapor; mere illusions. God provides us what we need for the journey through this life, not the means to set up an eternal abode. What we lose, by His will and good grace, we obtain again. Be solicitous not of tomorrow, for tomorrow will take care of itself.
January 20, 2017 at 3:12 PM

Here's an exchange that shows the current state of Charlie's remorse:

Karl Sander says:
January 20, 2017 at 1:23 pm


A prophecy is a tool to help people of God to prepare their selves to upcoming dangers. Taking the next right step also mean that if someone knows about a prophecy, a real prophecy from God, then he NECESSARILY have to take the right steps. If the prophecy is really true.

You predicted a global collapse and chaos, all of this obviously before today with Trump not taking power. All of this involve serious steps, if you really believe in the prediction, and with even a deadline. I followed your advice so many times posted here, with absolutely no reserve. I waited, I waited, I waited.

Now I’m ruined and lost thousand of dollars.

Are you happy now Mr. Charlie Johnston? Can you see what happens when you insists telling everyone for years “Holy cow, everything is going to be upended, after the fall comes the fall, Obama not finishing his term, chaos before the 20th”?.

Everyone has noticed that you stopped believing in your own predictions ONLY since two months ago. But too late for me. Me, who was one of your followers. Especially and almost exclusively for the prophetic part, because you DECLARED yourself to be a prophet of God. Otherwise, and I’m being honest, I would have considered this a blog like everything else, no less, no more (and, come one, 90% of the people at first went here for the prophetic part. Telling the contrary, would be foolish).

And now? Who will give my money and stuff back?

There are other guys like me in the same condition. Are these the good fruits? Is everything going to pass as if tomorrow is another shiny day? “Well, no prophecy, let’s turn the page”. A big NO. This is not how the world is working. When you have followers and share unique, prophetic words, in some way you are also responsible for the choices that they will do ACCORDING to your predictions, in this case.

I will stop reading this blog anymore, as it only bring bad fruits for me and many others for the prophetic parts.

Again: this is what happens when someone claims sure, sure sure for YEARS, only to stepping back when it is too late for those who have already been deceived. Think about this, and please, I beg you even if I really shouldn’t, for the good of everyone:

STOP SHARING PREDICTIONS.

THEY WILL HURT SENSIBLE PEOPLE LIKE ME, AND AT LEAST SHOW APOLOGIZES FOR US WHO HAVE TAKEN STEPS ACCORDING TO YOUR PREDICTIONS!!!!

I’M ASKING NO MORE THAN THIS!!!


charliej373 says:
January 20, 2017 at 2:40 pm


Karl, if you lost money because you put it towards preparations when I told you to trust God and not focus on preparations other than prudent things you could easily afford, that is not my fault. Who will give me all the money I have forfeited by living poverty since 2010 in order to be faithful to what I was called to? I will give no apologies to people who have taken steps I urged them not to. It has always been about acknowledging God, taking the next right step, and being a sign of hope. So it still is.

Anonymous said...

I wrote the very first comment on the very first article Glenn Dallaire wrote about Charlie Johnston and posted on this website. I knew Charlie Johnston was a charlatan then and have staunchly maintained that opinion throughout. I was distressed that attention was being given to someone who appeared to have features of sociopathy and said so at times often being rebuffed by Glenn himself. I take no pleasure in what has occurred today nor do I take a "I told you so" attitude. Rather, I think it is heartbreaking to think so many children of God have been deceived and hurt in this way. I think this calls for stronger measures and policies to be used by the Church and even the new President to prevent this type of thing happening again. I know Glenn will take his "we report you discern" line however some people cannot discern well and are taken in very easily by charlatans like Charlie. They need to be protected and it may well be that reporting these people rather than whipping up discussion about them which heightens their exposure and inevitably leads to more followers who are not great discerners may be more prudent. Coming to this site to vent is a stop gap but is not what is really needed. What these poor disappointed even devastated BOVOCS need is treatment from a good mental health professional skilled in helping people who have been involved cults and other individuals like Charlie. Indeed that is what Charlie needs himself. By this along with prayer and spiritual help from a good priest healing can come. I pray for all including Glenn and Charlie who are seemingly both perpetrators and victims in this horrible tragedy.

Anonymous said...

Yes, TNRS was/is a cult. Charlie Johnston worked hard to set up an organization. He wasn't under the guidance of any spiritual director when publishing, he was on his own. He must have know he was hurting people because of the responses he got, but that didn't stop him, he just doubled down. There are groups that help people emerge from cults, and maybe some of Charlie's most loyal followers need that help

Anonymous said...

There is a reason the church has 4 marks. It is not up to you to decide who is authentic and who is not, nor is it up to Charlie Johnston. You both failed on several accounts to state how and why prophecy is discerned and it doesn't happen in a short time span. No saint has ever declared themselves to be authentic or not by their own yardstick since Jesus Christ. You act like a Catholic tabloid, ready to pounce before a verdict declared that is not yours to declare and for very good reason.

Anonymous said...

I always follow the Canadian Hockey player rule, when Europeans first came here to play hockey when they scored goals they would over celebrate, when a Canadian scored he would be almost embarrassed that he scored - very quiet celebration - Charlie was the European - look at me and what I'm saying I'm important you need to listen to me.
When Europeans got injured a little they'd be rolling all over the ice like soccer players, when a Canadian got injured he'd keep playing or struggle to the bench.
I always compare someone to the Canadian Hockey player - Charlie never fit the bill.

Joe said...

I thought his thoughts on government workers was one of the few things he got right.

Joe said...

Yes you are right anonymous 2:52. That is the only definitive thing here.

Anonymous said...

You barely pass journalism muster let alone prophecy muster and you did the same thing to Locutions. You put it out there, false, you did not submit to the proper authority but washed your hands and said that you could not get an answer and then put it out there for the public to decide. The proper authority was her spiritual director and then the authority of the spiritual director and then on to the greater authority of the church. You did not obey that authority and all of its marks but usurped it and I don't know if you can see that from your own words but that is exactly what you did.

Lisa said...

Charlie's failed "prophecies" and the consequences thereof should definitely be reported to his Archbishop, in my opinion. By their fruits you shall know ... Charlie appears to be mentally ill, not a mystic. He needs our prayers.

Joe said...

Absolutely no remorse. A complete sociopath. I remember him telling people to make the minimum house payment and to not invest in retirement. I am sorry but Charlie is an evil man.

Anonymous said...

I think a deal was already struck between him and the diocese, he's wrong, he leaves, but he can keep the site, but not him, if things change he can appeal to the diocese to go public.

Joe said...

I told my wife after it was clear that Charlie was a fraud. Seeing how people reacted when I challenged him on his site, I could now see how theses mass suicides take place in these cults. It was almost like his followers lost all ability for reason and rational thinking. Whatever Charlie said was gospel and anyone who stepped out of line or questioned anything was attacked and discarded.

CP said...

Hey Joe we get it, Charlie hurt your feelings. Get over it. Heaping scorn on him and the good people who comment on his blog is not doing anybody any good, especially you. In the few comments he's posted today he's said, repeatedly, that he was wrong and he takes full responsibility. Charlie was clearly wrong. He owned that mistake. What more do you want?

And after all, Trump is not a bad consolation prize,

Thx,

CP

Anonymous said...

I know, he besmirched the name of a good man who was the proper authority (and we don't even know that in full) when he knew full well there would be no public declaration as to whether Locutions was valid but only put out innuendo and rumor and his own judgement on the matter when he should have just sat down and shut up until there was.

Anonymous said...

Look at the comment at 3:23 and prior, Charlie's clearly not taking full responsibility.

Anonymous said...

Charlie is more sorry he got caught, time ran out on him, yes he says he takes responsibility but can you really believe anything he says now - I still don't.

Anonymous said...

I get the feeling the pied piper was waiting for high noon more than Trump and it puts a bad taste in my mouth and the same was true over Locutions and both of them. Not their job because there is NO way either of them took the time to verify anything even on fallibility but rushed to rash judgment.

Glenn Dallaire said...


Hi Anonymous,
You said:
You barely pass journalism muster let alone prophecy muster and you did the same thing to Locutions. You put it out there, false, you did not submit to the proper authority but washed your hands and said that you could not get an answer and then put it out there for the public to decide. The proper authority was her spiritual director and then the authority of the spiritual director and then on to the greater authority of the church. You did not obey that authority and all of its marks but usurped it and I don't know if you can see that from your own words but that is exactly what you did."
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I have to ask--Did you actually read the update to this article (at the top of the article) where I wrote:

"In the end, it is up to Archbishop Aquila of Denver to make any formal judgments concerning Charlie Johnston's private revelations."

And did you read my report and comments on the Archbishops decision last year? Is this not pointing out who the rightful authority is in these situations?

I always point out that the local bishop is the only one who has the authority to judge definitively and in the name of the Church. Meantime, in lieu of the local Bishops decision, each person is responsible to discern for themselves. As with all alleged visionaries an mystics, the person themselves (in this case Charlie) alone is responsible for their message.

And for some reason that I cannot fathom you accuse me of making a judgement in this case? I have to ask, where exactly do you see me making a judgement in my reporting? I'm simply left thinking that you merely gloss over what I have written in the article above, and in my other articles.

I honestly report the facts as best and impartially as I can, yet sometimes I concede that I may let some of my own opinions slip in. But, God knows I sincerely do try to report straightforwardly and without bias. But, if you don't like my reports then why "shoot the messenger"? I can only suggest that you don't visit this website if you don't like my reports and articles. I can appreciate the fact that some people do not like raw fact reporting, but actually prefer opinionated reporting, as we see with some mainstream media outlets. That's fine, but it is not my own style.

Thanks for your comments and may God bless you and your loved ones.
Glenn Dallaire


Joe said...

Hi Charlie

Anonymous said...

So Charlie made a mistake on this and has admitted it. I think that takes humility and courage. His mistake on this doesn't make him a bad man; those who are piling on need to distinguish between two things: 1) the accuracy of what a person says and 2) his personal character.
Making a mistake is just that, making a mistake. To conclude he is a charlatan deliberately lying to mislead people is an ad hominem judgment. Be careful, because to tear down someone's character is not just a mistake but a sin against charity.

Joe said...

Great analogy.

Anonymous said...

Joe said: "I could now see how theses mass suicides take place in these cults."
Come on, Joe, who's committing suicide over Charlie? Stop being so ridiculous. If you actually read the latest comments from people there, you would see they are not upset as you think.

CP said...

Joe, I'm actually YongDuk...no...wait...i mean Bekita...wait...sorry...i'm clearly Doug. Actually, no, i'm not any of those people nor am i Charlie.

Anyway, the anonymous post beneath yours says it best. I don't recall anyone piling on Monsignor Esseff when Locutions of the World turned out to be false. Why was that? Because everyone implicitly understood that a priest making a mistake in spiritual discernment does not automatically equate to maliciously deceiving the faithful.

There's evil and then there's ignorance. There malice and then there's mistakes. Charlie made a mistake in his interpretation. This is not evil. It's human. That's all there is to it. He made a mistake and now he has to live with it.

We should feel worse for him than for any of his followers.

CP

Joe said...

Anonymous 4:50. You completely misinterpreted the point I was trying to make and you know it. I was saying after seeing how Charlies's followers blindly follow and accept everything Charlie says. I could see how these cult arise and masses of people do crazy things like suicide while under the spell of a cult leader. It had nothing to do with them being sad that Charlie is a failure and a liar.

Anonymous said...

Here's a snippet from a comment today...talk about his followers grasping for straws!

Susan says:
January 20, 2017 at 12:33 pm
I believe half of your locution has already been completed. I think the election of Donald Trump (wealthy businessman, never held political office, outside the political powers) was the first half. Is it possible that the second half (Obama not completing his term) could yet happen. Yes, I know, Donald J. Trump is officially the President of the United States. And it would appear as if Obama has completed his term in office.

But What If...Trump directs an investigation and evidence is discovered that Obama was not a US citizen and was not eligible/ entitled to be the President of the USA in the first place. I realize the “birth certificate” issue never went anywhere and was dismissed as a conspiracy theory. Was it truth or not? If the new president wanted to undo what Obama has done over his two terms, what better way than to invalidate him as President. Ergo...Obama not completing his term.

Dutchman1847 said...

Dear Friends,
It is important to keep in mind that authentic prophecy is still unfolding, and Mr. Sanders you still might need all those supplies before the year is out.

Johnston is a deception operation from the evil one to deceive and demoralise the faithful.

It is just the beginning of 2017, which is the 100th anniversary of the Great Miracle at Fatima, as we all know.

Given this, I would not be surprised in the next few months to see the priest from Medjogore announce one of the secrets is about to occur. Further, it seems plausible that the warning and miracle could occur this year. Many people around the world prayed for Trump, and asked God for help with the election. Trump miraculously won.

Today, we saw six clergy ask for God's blessings and even our new President asked for God's help. God is sure to respond to today's prayers in some manner. It seems to be a propitious time for God to act and shine the truth into human consciousness, which would resolve many questions about what is true or not. Just my opinion.

Mr. Sanders, I am sorry that you acted in good faith and now feel that you might have placed your family in a difficult spot. I can assure you that God can assist in even the bleakest situation. I have been in many difficult and painful situations, but somehow things worked out. I made it thru by praying the rosary and adoration. It really works.

So keep the faith brother. Hang in there! Remember the year ain't over yet, and you really might need those supplies. I say this because the sun is going quiet, no sunspots, which has a correlation to increased seismic and volcanic activity.

God be with you.

Anonymous said...

Glenn your response to Anonymous was uncharitable and disappointing. The final decision is up to the Archbishop but that final decision is dependent on the responsible reporting of information. I think you commented earlier or agreed with a comment that we need to be kind to these poor people who have been hurt by Charlie. I cannot say your aggressive response to Anonymous was kind or Christlike. It smacks a little bit of Charlie's response - it is your fault for being foolish not mine.That person made some points to ponder. No one can deny that your website has gotten a lot of "mileage" out of Charlie as it did with LTTW. We need to protect the vulnerable - did you really do that in these cases? I think it would be a great idea if you posted the contact details of some mental health professionals and priests who could help these people rather than responding as you did in a defensive aggressive manner to anonymous. As Jesus asks us so we should do "Love your enemies." "Love one another."

Anonymous said...

"As with all alleged visionaries an mystics, the person themselves (in this case Charlie) alone is responsible for their message".... He got permission to write, that's it and he was adhering to that minimum standard of basically being an opinion until all was settled by the final authority including if even his opinion is valid. You overstepped your bounds.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone remember the post: "Whatcha Gonna Do When They Come for You?" If not, below I pasted part of that post. I believed that Charlie told us true and of course reading this I stockpiled to the ceilings and purchased a handgun to protect my family. What father wouldn't take steps to protect his wife and children? Now I feel like a damn fool!

"It does not start with tanks rolling down the streets for the simple reason that there are too many people, not enough trucks, and it would give away the game before you had effective control. The first step is to create a crisis or take advantage of a genuine crisis to foment large-scale fear. If, for example, you can create fear of an imminent terrorist attack – preferably using a dirty bomb or, even better, a potential nuclear threat, you can have authorities go house to house and broadcast telling people where to report for evacuation to a place of safety. Because of the logistics of such a huge population, you want to get a frightened populace to do as much of the heavy lifting as possible as the crisis opens. This reduces both the amount of labor and machinery needed to get people to camps while simultaneously reducing the available potential pool of resistance. Make a few such sweeps, punctuated perhaps with some random bombs and attacks to give the threat credibility. Only then do you send out the trucks to forcibly take the remaining recalcitrants. The opening days of such an event would not be marked by displays of raw power, but by efforts to anesthetize suspicions of ill intent and freeze into indecision any efforts at resistance. Public safety officials would not be in on the game; it would be important to convince them that the emergency is real, for they would be the most serious source of potential revolt if they thought otherwise.

Your window of opportunity to flee would come with the first announcement of where to report to be taken to safety. At that time, monitoring of specific neighborhoods would be loose, almost non-existent. If you drive, be aware of any routes to relocation centers that have been marked out publicly. Officials would be watching for vehicles moving in a contrary direction and stop them. If that happens to you, cooperate and go back in whatever direction you are told. You will get an opportunity to pull over and leave the vehicle at some point, perhaps even go back to your home under the pretext you have to pick one more thing up – then leave on foot from there. Such routes may not be marked out at first, but if they are, expect that your ability to escape by car will be difficult, perhaps impossible.

If you are a healthy adult, fleeing will be your best option IF you move quickly and decisively. If you have healthy children, it is even more important to leave quickly, for reasons I cover below. If you or someone in your family has a serious illness, it may be better to go ahead and go to the relocation camp, for reasons that, again, I will discuss below. In the early days, officials will be too busy processing intakes and sweeping population centers to spend more than cursory time looking for people who have actually fled. The greater power behind such things has a significant disincentive to search for such people, for they are the ones who would be most likely to foment dissent within the camps anyway – and are unlikely to be able to gather in any location in significant numbers to form a counter-balancing force with any alacrity. If you do flee, forming a resistance force is not your primary job, anyway, but to get to secure remote cover and keep your head low."

Glenn Dallaire said...


To CP at 4:56PM:

Thanks for your comment. I think the perspective that you shared is a truly beneficial consideration.

-Glenn Dallaire

Glenn Dallaire said...


To Jack Gallagher,
Thanks for your many comments here over the past couple of years. You reflections and shared opinions are always well thought out and always seem to be made with sincerity an a desire for the truth. We may not have always agreed in all of our perspectives on various things, but I always admire your very reasoned and analytical approach.

Union in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary,
Glenn Dallaire

Glenn Dallaire said...


Joe,
As much as I don't like doing so I felt obligated to delete your comment from 5:16pm because the first sentence REALLY was inflammatory and not helpful at all to this subject and situation.

-Glenn Dallaire

Anonymous said...

As a layperson his only duty was to submit to the authorities on all matters (they set the bounds) including if his writings adhere to church teaching (he doesn't even have that authority truth be told, especially when claiming to be a prophet and/or mystic with visions), which he did and still does. That's the only test with a whole line of others that come after that, none of which is the domain of the average layperson including him or you. That's all I said.

Boo said...

Brendan yours is the best comment in this thread.
Charlie was wrong and has admitted that the current results would be proof of this. But we are not exempt from reading the signs of the times and our personal responsibility to look to our own sanctification in these increasingly morally corrupt times. Including as you say charity in all things. Pax!

Fred Keyes said...

Anon @6:23: Yes I do recall posts like that and some other rather bizarre scenarios that Charlie posted. Not because those things are impossible—history amply demonstrates that societies come unglued and despots can cause havoc. Just look at Syria.

[What follows is my opinion only:]
But those kinds of things happening here, now, with no warnings derived from a fact-based analysis of current events? Charlie's imaginary scenarios fall under the category of conspiracy theories writ large. Just look at the kinds of societal breakdowns he described. When these have happened in the modern age there were circumstances that pointed to the breakdowns. Jews weren't exterminated without warning during WWII. Many saw the handwriting on the wall months and even years in advance and escaped.

To date there is no credible information that Charlie's doomsday scenarios are going to play out any time soon. That's not to say things couldn't start to go downhill at any point, and even rapidly, but history typically unfolds in steps, not without observable causes.

The Fatima prophecy of a Communist takeover was a credible one because unrest in that direction had been cooking in Russia for several years. The situation in Venezuela is similar; no one would be surprised if a revolution toppled that government any time soon. But we have known that for months now. As badly divided as our country is, there's no indication of people taking up arms to solve our issues, as serious as many of us believe those problems are.

Charlie was stating with a certainty unsupported by anything realistically factual that his imaginary scenarios were imminent. This reminds me of Jesus' advice at Mt 16:1-4. Note, ironically, that Jonah is mentioned, the prophet that many compared to Charlie.

Fred Keyes said...

CVorrection: My comment above should have been directed to Anonymous 6:28

Joe said...

I would say what Charlie did was much more than a mistake. You don't tell thousands of people that you have been talking to angels and that something major is going to happen that your angel told you to tell the people. When it turns out to be false then you just call it a mistake and act like nothing ever happened. Come on CP you are better than that.

Joe said...

It is what it is Glenn. Sometimes the truth is inflammatory.

Glenn Dallaire said...

Dear Anonymous
You said...
As a layperson his only duty was to submit to the authorities on all matters (they set the bounds) including if his writings adhere to church teaching (he doesn't even have that authority truth be told, especially when claiming to be a prophet and/or mystic with visions), which he did and still does. That's the only test with a whole line of others that come after that, none of which is the domain of the average layperson including him or you. That's all I said.
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The difficulty that I personally am having with your comment above is 2 part:
Firstly, in the comment above you refer to a previous comment that you made, however because you are using the name "anonymous" its difficult to know which comments are yours. You can actually choose a random name of your own choosing when posting a comment---you will see that it is one of the options when posting. This would really be a good choice for you if you choose to post more in the future, so everyone here can identify and respond to you by some kind of name.

Secondly, there has been three "anonymous" comments this afternoon that I suspect are all three yours because in each one of these three comments I personally have been really struggling to understand what is the actual point(s) that these "anonymous" commenters are trying to make. I say this in all sincerity. Your comment above (and two other anonymous comments from earlier today that seem to be along the same lines) hardly make any sense, to me at least. There is really no distinguishable or clear point being made in these recent anonymous comments.

But if I am getting the gist of what you are saying above it seems like you are trying(????) to say that as a layman I have no right or authority to publish any information about Charlie Johnston or any other purported living mystic? Or that by publishing information I am somehow making a judgement about such person(s)? Or that Charlie had no right to publish his private revelations? Or, are you asking on what authority I publish information or private revelations in general?
-I simply don't really know what you or the other two recent anonymous posters are actually trying to say.

In short, if you or the other recent anonymous commenters want to further your line of discussion, you will need to actually make a clear point(s) for discussion, and also please consider using a name when posting, so those interested can actually discern who is saying what.

Thanks for your comments.
Glenn Dallaire

Joe said...

Glenn. Do you agree with CP that what Charlie did was merely a mistake?

Jack Gallagher said...

Glenn (at 6:42 PM),

Back atchya, my fellow raconteur. I think of Bolt's play/film, A Man For All Seasons, and the line of Moore played by Paul Scofield: "I do none harm, I say none harm, I think none harm." I always said that when this day came I would not condemn Charlie; I don't.

I have used Moore's line several times in prior posts to remind readers that I'm interested in discernment, not ad hominem attack. It has been a difficult sell, as so many defenders of the alleged Prophet respond so defensively even when presented with facts supplied directly from Charlie's own quoted words - and context.

It is said in the Bible that non-believers will not be aided by a warning from someone, even if that someone should rise from the dead to warn them. The converse apparently, is also true: "all-in" believers in Charlie Johnston's prophecies cling to the illusion that the belief in them has some indefinable, immeasurable, but still great, value, no matter how badly a prophecy fails, even where Charlie has prefaced the failed prophecy with the words "I was told" or "God has appointed that this be a sign" or "I have told you true" - all of which he used with respect to the failed Presidential Prophecy, with the stated purpose of "fortifying" his followers that the "Rescue" was definitely coming. Some even go so far as maintaining a delusion that the Presidential Prophecy either did, or still may, come true.

The Christ's life, death and resurrection were supposed to put an end to any need for prophets to tell us about the future of this world. The "deposit of faith" is not something to be added to, as if it were a quantity within a bucket not yet filled to capacity - with the implication that something can be added to make it even more beneficial. That phrase has the meaning of something handed down by Jesus to Peter and the apostles that must have continuity and above all else must be safeguarded - with nothing added to it, and nothing dispensed.

The "Rescue" strikes me, at least, as an attempt to add something, because belief in world-wide recognized Marian intervention (with the details described by Charlie) is an entirely new point of faith. And this is odd because the mantra of "acknowledge God, take the next right step, and be a sign of hope to others" (specifically when the "storm" comes to "fullness" in a "crash") contains nothing "new."

And so I still take issue with bloggers such as CP, who said (at 4:56 PM):

--begin quoted text--
Charlie made a mistake in his interpretation. This is not evil. It's human. That's all there is to it. He made a mistake and now he has to live with it.
--end quoted text--

But, it isn't true that Charlie made a mistake in "interpretation." Charlie never claimed he was interpreting anything vis-a-vis the Presidential Prophecy. He claimed, repeatedly, "I was told." That's not an interpretation. He has claimed to both actually speak to and hear audible words back from his "angel" and at other times communicate without the use of words. At no point did he claim this particular prophecy was from the latter form of communication. He always used the phrase, "I was told." That's not a mistake. Either you take him at his word on this, or you must conclude that no communication ever took place.

The assertion that this is not evil is also open for debate. That is because we don't know the source of his information other than we certainly know that it cannot have come from God or the angel Gabriel or any other angel of God. And, CP, don't even think about quoting the prophet Jeremiah out of context, as comparisons of Charlie to any actual genuine prophet of the past, given today's events, are inappropriate beyond the pale.

I don't condemn Charlie, the man, but his information is false. It was false from the beginning.

Glenn Dallaire said...

I'm sorry Joe--I should have been more clear and specific about what I was supporting in CP's commentary. This is the part I think was essentially insightful:
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"Anyway, the anonymous post beneath yours says it best. I don't recall anyone piling on Monsignor Esseff when Locutions of the World turned out to be false. Why was that? Because everyone implicitly understood that a priest making a mistake in spiritual discernment does not automatically equate to maliciously deceiving the faithful.

There's evil and then there's ignorance. There malice and then there's mistakes. Charlie made a mistake in his interpretation. This is not evil. It's human. That's all there is to it. He made a mistake and now he has to live with it."
-----

Essentially, my agreement with "CP" is that I don't think that Charlie is malicious. I do think that it is obvious that the prophecy that was made was a mistake. It was false. I don't know the source(s) or reasons for the mistake, but I personally don't sense any malice concerning him. Has he been cranky and short with others at times? Most definitely. Even uncharitable in certain comments. But I personally don't see malice in any of it.

And I should definitely add that I think that he has lost his credibility with most people at this point. But again, this is simply my opinion, for whatever it is worth.

Anonymous said...

Charlie has said that he has been receiving 3 messages per week, it would interesting to know with him being completely wrong today: are these messages still going to occur; have the messages changed; does he still believe these messages; and
what is the status of the messages?

From what I gather Charlie is leaving the scene "to be refined". As I've said before Charlie is not done unless his Bishop steps in and says something. If the diocese doesn't say anything in the next little while I will speculate that Charlie's departure was already agreed upon based on the results of today.

Charlie may still be back don't count him out, he has built up an empire of supporters who will follow him again. His site is still running, so he has not left the scene entirely. I suspect though that with the "main character" gone traffic will be significantly less. In fact I noticed that over 50% of the posts were from Charlie or Beckita probably to keep the troops energized. Let's face it Beckita will not have the "star" attraction as Charlie, however she will be a good caretaker of his message and site until he returns as she is a loyal follower.

Glenn Dallaire said...


Hi Anonymous @9:34PM
Personally, looking back on other persons who proclaimed prophecies that were false I think its very unlikely that Charlie could ever build any significant audience once again. The reality of today's two-part false prophecy has permanently affected his credibility with most people, I would think.

Thanks for your comment.
Glenn Dallaire

Anonymous said...

At one stage I thought Charlie was collecting donations for a basilica/monument at Mt Meeker. Does anyone else remember? Where is this money now? Is this fraud?

Joe said...

Just thinking of some of the absurd things Charlie has said over the years. Anyone remember when he talked about an an evil antichrist type of guy that had been following him around for a time. Charlie is a sick pup

Joe said...

I wonder also how did he pay for all of his trips to different cities for presentations. If Charlie had been given money, There is no way I would trust that the money was not lining His pockets. After all this guy made up stories about talking to angels.

Anonymous said...

Glenn: I believe he still has a following, go to his site and read the people who still think he is great - 95%. Unless he's scrubbing posts galore, the majority of them love him - they love the message - TNRS. He has built up a loyal base, they will believe him no matter what and they would help him in a heart beat. There are people who have peeled off and they will stay away, but others will get sucked in again. Mark my words Charlie is planning a return - he doesn't sound like he is leaving permanently.

Glenn Dallaire said...


Hi Jack,
You raise a matter that I imagine quite a few folks are left wondering:
What then is the "source of his information" as you aptly put it.

The heart of it being, is the source of his predictions from within (Charlie himself), or from without? And unfortunately, I don't think those who are interested to know will likely ever get the answer. The only ones who could probably make a solid conclusion concerning this is the man himself, and to some extent his spiritual directors, and perhaps maybe some close family members or friends. Others are simply left to speculate, I suppose.

In then end though of course such considerations do not effect the conclusions to be drawn from today's failed prophecy.

-Glenn Dallaire

Glenn Dallaire said...

Anonymous asked:
"At one stage I thought Charlie was collecting donations for a basilica/monument at Mt Meeker. Does anyone else remember? Where is this money now? Is this fraud?"
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For the record, to my knowledge he did not collect any donations thus far for the Chapel that is supposed to be built on Mt. Meeker. That (the donations and construction) was supposed to begin only AFTER the purported Rescue.

-Glenn Dallaire

Joe said...

I have to believe he is scrubbing posts like post scrubbing is going out of business. There is no way that the majority of the people who comment over there are that mindless.

Lisa said...

I posted a comment on Charlie's site this afternoon that didn't pass moderation, so I believe he's being selective in what he allows through.

Anonymous said...

See the truth comes out, he is scrubbing discontent to make it look like he has close to 100% approval rating, he has to let a few bad ones in so people don't get too suspicious.
Isn't that deceitful? Glenn: I don't buy it that his failed prophecies were not malicious, his post scrubbing is deceitful.
Lisa would you care to post your scrubbed comment here?

Anonymous said...

Hi Joe
I think by reading your posts that you are very angry, but it seems to have gotten a grip on you. Not just regular anger that dissipates over time, this is a "grip"....did your mom and dad suffer much as a result of the predictions? I would be angry also if my mom and dad were apparently taken advantage of. Or is it possible that they, like the others at the site are somewhat dismissing the erroneous "prophecy" and declaring their loyalty. It is disturbing and concerning that they don't appreciate that deception is nothing to dismiss. It can and does lead to serious spiritual consequences. Over the last twenty years there have been so many false "prophets" originating from the Catholic Church. I think we need to ask why?? It is certainly becoming the boy who cried wolf. It's obvious by comments that there are many Catholics that become "groupies" of the current "messages" and when that person is found to be untrustworthy, it's on to the next. There has to be a reason for this, a diabolical one in my opinion. All of these people receiving false messages and predictions and Catholics treating them like Oracles or Fortunetellers in some instances. Are these false messengers being treated as "mediums"? If this is true, or bordering on truth, then the people who follow these messengers need to examine their behavior in cooperating with these spirits of divination or oracles. That is why the TRUTH does matter. It should not be dismissed so lightly and treated as some sort of hobby or sport. True prophecy is gift from God. It cheapens and devalues the gift when we view it as sport for lack of a better word. Prophecy currently holds no value. Maybe this has been the devil's plan all along. Just as many aspects of our Catholic identity and the Mass have lost value and been cheapened, this is just one more gift God has given us that has been de-valued and stripped of it's intended meaning and purpose.

Joe, I hope you are able to get out from under the anger soon. We should have a righteous anger over injustice, and that is what I'm reading in your comments. An injustice has occurred and you are seeking justice. That my friend is Gods. I've had to learn that the very hard way. Give it to him the best you can or your soul will start to feel rotten. God Bless.

Anonymous said...


Keep your promise CJ - now that your 'prophesying' has failed.

Go away you silly old fool and pray for peace instead of looking war. Whackjob.

P

Anonymous said...

That's why I coined the term BOVOCs - Burnt Out Victims of Charlie. This was an excellent site to vent on and it helped me to come to grips with my anger to Charlie not because I believed him but his treatment of me and there is a trail of bodies out there - some for the way they've been treated by Charlie and others because they have been burnt.
At first I thought Charlie was very blessed and intelligent, but I quickly began to realize that he was deceitful, uninformed, and controlling - definitely not the best characteristics for God's chosen, God can pick anyone yet he picks Charlie Johnston for one of the most important messages ever of mankind - I don't know God, but it wouldn't be Charlie Johnston.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I should have listened to what my Priest said about alledged mystics.

1) If it is not approved by the Church, ignore it.
2) Prophecy speculation is addictive, but NOT in a holy way.
3) It distracts us from our day-to-day responsibilities to family, faith and work.
4) It encourages us to game the prophecy to our advantage, which is selfish.
5) The hours I spent on this garbage could have gone to better use, like adoration or extra Masses.
6) Assume a neutral position towards the false seer. I don't know if they are crazy, stupid or decietful. For this, they get benefit of the doubt.
7) But I am DONE, and encourage you to tell all the people you know who follow these things to close the door on these activities - permanently. Save those you love from the inevitable disappointment.

Anonymous said...

Good advise, but there are people who won't listen and we need sites like this to debunk it. The energy we have expended is worth it because people realized they were not alone, it wasn't them it was Charlie while others pulled Charlie's prophecies and messages apart to show us the error of his messages or whatever he called them.

Anonymous said...

We're kinda like deprogrammers.

Anonymous said...

Before Inauguration day,on Charlie's own site, I wished him, peace, whether he be right or wrong in terms of his predictions, and I said that I would keep him in my prayers. I felt great compassion for, him, for I felt I KNEW what way all of this was going,(as far as his predictions). And I knew it was not going to be as Charlie thought. I quoted the scripture of Jesus, which talks about loving our enemies, for that is what I felt the Lord was telling me to do regarding Charlie. Months, back, I had been greatly hurt on his site, but in leaving my post, yesterday, I was trying to show Christian compassion and not judge. Charlie, why did you wipe out my attempt to reach out, and show compassion? My attempt was sincere. Your predictions, or prophecies didn't come to pass, but I don't believe you are an evil person. You appear to love the Lord, and believe in his sacraments, and defend the unborn, and have a big love for Mother Mary, and believe in the power of the Eucharist- and these are all GOOD things. I have seen good in you. I do not want to stand in judgement of, you, because you have gotten things wrong. It's obvious you truly believed in your visitations (whether they be true or false). And it's obvious you truly believed that you were dedicated to your mission, as far as TNRS. I do not believe that you were consciously "deceiving." It is not for me, or anyone on Mystics of the Church to stand in judgement of you. Only God knows your mind, heart, soul, motives, and intentions. But now that these few prophecies have not come to pass, please reflect on that,as I'm SURE you are doing. Because people's lives have GREATLY been affected. We are ALL very human, and we all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. None of us on this site, can claim to be without fault. But please consider what I've said here. As I said on your site, I WILL keep you in my prayers.

Anonymous said...

But debunking is the problem. We don't know if any prophecy is real or false. By the time it is debunked, it's too late. That's what happened here. The best advise it to avoid this stuff like the plague, because we really don't know what is real. Also, think of how many times Satan has deceived people using supposedly good Priests or Nuns.

After this debacle, I am convinced that this is God's way of saying stay away from these things. Let Him through His Church authenticate and release vetted messages - they are after all in Management. All of us are in Sales, and we don't need to know everything to do our job properly.

Anonymous said...

It looks like Charlie succumbed to the sin of pride, he could do no wrong, he was full of himself, he wouldn't listen and in the end he paid the price. But, has he learned anything - no! He's still scrubbing posts and he's still being belligerent. Sigh.

Anonymous said...

I like the Canadian Hockey Player rule when you score a goal you act like you're almost embarrassed that you scored.
I believe Myrna Nazzour fits that profile. I read about a Mr. Houle on this site and he amongst others fit the profile. They are both at various stages of approval.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
But debunking is the problem. We don't know if any prophecy is real or false. By the time it is debunked, it's too late. That's what happened here. The best advise it to avoid this stuff like the plague, because we really don't know what is real. Also, think of how many times Satan has deceived people using supposedly good Priests or Nuns.

After this debacle, I am convinced that this is God's way of saying stay away from these things. Let Him through His Church authenticate and release vetted messages - they are after all in Management. All of us are in Sales, and we don't need to know everything to do our job properly.

I completely agree! Perhaps Glenn you could help everyone by not featuring these "maybes" on your website or even dabble in them yourself.It causes too much pain. the less attention these people get the less of a following the get. A website is not really the best way to recover from being involved with a cult or false prophet. If you are really suffering ask your doctor for a referral to a good mental health professional or contact the American Psychologists Association for guidance as to where to find one. Graces to all!

T-bone said...

I would like to remind people that Charlie did not miss just two prophecies today as Glenn points out in his new article. The two he missed today are minor compared to the cataclysmic ones that would have caused those two to happen, especially "the next leader" not coming from the election process. Multiple mega-events would have had to have happened for the so-called presidential prophecy to have come true. Allowing for only two misses is truly being generous, Glenn, given the sheer magnitude of what Charlie missed that would have caused all this.

On a side note, I don't think I can think of any other alledged "prophet" that has been more of an enigma than Charlie. It's been like a pinball bouncing off everything, back and forth, side to side, lights flashing, then just when you think it's over, someone hits the flipper and flips the ball back into play, and away we go again. The last regular Christmas 2013, the summer of 2015, Obama not finshing his term 2016, not transition of power, 2017, etc.

And now, supposedly with ten months left before the rescue, amidst all the mayhem that surely must be wound up tightly into the busting-at-the-seams jack in the box such that the rescue comes to fruition, Charlie is going to write fiction and learn piano?



Anonymous said...

Oh and Kitty Cleveland is off to Nashville for singing tryouts in Feb being encouraged by Charlie and others in the middle of the storm - you can not make this stuff up.

Anonymous said...

The greatest heresy in the church today is modernism and the so called pied pipers deciding for the blind instead of the blind being led by their own catechism and the deposit of faith that is there for the taking. Modernism is when you have what is occurring here, everyone offering an opinion on whether the church itself is even right on a matter and that includes the traditionalists as well as the liberals. The only thing worth reading and meditating on here is the authentic prophecy, approved and then it is not so hard to be fooled or lost because you will see both the church and the prophet in a true light and only from then on will you have the virtue imbued by grace to judge for yourself. We used to teach it in school, discernment and actual hard wiring of the brain to not be fooled by anyone or anything and whole generations have not got and it shows. So the first thing you need to recognize is modernism itself and then take the good and leave the bad.

Anonymous said...

Wow! T-bone, such a great point. I didn't think of that. He's going to write fiction and learn to play piano knowing the so called worst year ever and the rescue are on the way. I can't understand why his followers are still following. Truly desperate people. So very sad. We really need to pray for them.

Anonymous said...

Yes T-bone that pin-ball analogy was brilliant. Don't forget after the Rescue is Charlie's retirement date of July 2018.
He also took 2 weeks off at Christmas plus at least 2 spans of non-activity on his site during this time. So Jan 20/17 possibly the most important sign to announce one of the most important dates in human history he takes a vacation, so it doesn't surprise me he will be writing fiction and learning piano before the Rescue.

Anonymous said...

Sorry to say but Charlie is divorced which was hush hush information all throughout the discernment process. Whenever I asked about Charlie and family, no one would answer. Also Charlie came from a fundamentalist faith that thought low of Catholics before his 'conversion'. If people are too afraid to dig into the ugly past of some of these 'prophet's' backgrounds, they are bound to repeat the same mistakes over and over again. Glenn I give you a bit of credit for your updated post today, but I still have concerns about your discernment. The past prophet that was discredited that you had been attached too was also a divorced woman. In the future don't be shy to delve into the person's past. It is absolutely essential to the discernment process. If I were you, I would stick to writing about the mystics that are deceased because their intercession can help us worlds more than living people who are very convincing, but deceiving.
Just hypothetically speaking but what if a Democratic PAC or a George Soros NGO gave Charlie money to start this prophecy to fool the Catholics into thinking that it was God's will for there to be riots and protests so that Donald Trump could not become president. I hope that isn't the case because if it were, that is a very grave evil.

Anonymous said...

Thank God! Get this attention seeking nutball off the stage.

Anonymous said...

With regard to Charlie refusing to apologise to those who"prepped" as he says he didn't tell them to there is this from his website written by his own people.
Charlie has said that it may be prudent to have several weeks' worth of food and water stored. He is not the only "watchman" to make this suggestion. Mark Mallett alleges that a few years ago, God told him that it was time to physically prepare for hard times. When he asked God how much food and water he should store, God allegedly told him, "Enough for Me to multiply" (http://www.embracinghope.tv/; type "time to prepare" into the search bar, and then click on the link with that title). We must keep in mind that we are not to behave as hoarders or to have a doomsday-prepper mentality; we are to be prepared to share our resources with others. Charlie has said repeatedly that if someone humbly asks us for help, then we are to share what we have with them. If we do so, then God will make sure that there is enough to go around. However, if someone aggressively demands that we give them our supplies, or if they try to take our supplies by force, then we have not only the obligation but also the duty to defend our families and provisions--even by the use of force.

Let us pray for his soul.

Anonymous said...

T-bone, thank you for that excellent analysis. I had been thinking about that point as well, namely the all the events necessary before the Pres. Prophecy were to come true.

T-bone said...

I don't follow Mark Mallett, but if indeed he stated that, when he asked God how much provision he should store up, God told him "enough that I could multiply," well, we have a heretical statement on our hands.

Joe said...

It just shows his lack of integrity.

Joe said...

T-bone, Haha! Don't forget go fishing more

Joe said...

The praise of Charlie is stomach turning over on his blog site.

Anonymous said...

T'bone, why is the statement, "enough that I can multiply" heretical in your opinion?

Anonymous said...

CHARLIE'S LAST COLUMN IS UP OVER AT HIS WEBSITE!!

NO APOLOGIES TO ANYONE!!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous from Jan 21, at 3:16am... Who cares if Charlie was divorced. We all knew that about his divorce from the beginning anyway. I'm not sure why you were in the dark. I never believed Charlie was a true prophet but his divorce had nothing to do with it. St. Augustine had a child out of wedlock and still became a doctor of the church and a great Saint. St. Paul was similar to an ISIS member before his conversion. What's your point? You seem to be in the dark about a few things.

Lisa said...

Charlie blames God in his last column:

"Some have demanded an explanation from me. I was wrong. I could be a crackpot, but that seems unlikely, given that I so accurately described the sudden cultural and spiritual degeneration of our society. I was deceived on this – and God allowed the deception to persist without correction. I have been deceived before – and counted on my angel to correct me on those occasions. This time the deception was allowed to persist,  either to chasten me or for other reasons yet unknown."

T-bone said...

To anonomous at 10:03

Because it presumes a limitation on the omnipotence of God - in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

I know many holy priests and very good Catholic and Christian people who had never even heard of Charlie Johnston. That said a lot to me when I was first trying to discern whether he was authentic. It didn't take long. His send off was lame. This whole hoopla over him was a big waste of time. The people commenting on Charlie's thread are lonely people who are looking for a community and pretending to be overjoyed because they get to carry the cross of being duped? So sad. We were created for community, so that part is understandable, but they should find it in their local church, friends and family.

Donna Sherwood said...

let us hope Mr Johnstone just fulfills his promise and goes away. I would prefer not to think he has been directly lying but time frame for satisfaction of his 8 events is foreclosed and although DC is not exactly peaceful the transition of power has occurred. I do not see the necessity in general for publication of these so called prophecies in any event. What is one to do about them ? We all know all times are biblical ones and the world is always in turmoil. As individuals we have little recourse other than prayer and support for politicians and leaders based on a rational well researched evaluation. All this accomplishes is to distract people from doing this. The Church is very cautious about these things for a reason and best for an individual to speak with a priest if they are getting to focused on what can only be termed mass sensationalism and potential delusion.

Brendan Triffett said...

To T-Bone
I think I understand why you would think that was heretical. It might sound as if God didn't have the power to create food miraculously out of nothing. However it's not about what God can do but how he wants to operate. Jesus chose to multiply loaves and fish. God likes to take our humble offerings and bless and multiply them. For He wants to operate with us in partnership. He doesn't need to when it comes to miracles but so often he does. St Bernadette had to physically dig before the miraculous waters flowed. Mark Mallet's comments should be read in that light I believe.

Anonymous said...

T-bone said it best with the analogy of the pinball machine - 11:59 pm that describes the Charlie situation to a T ( no pun intended T-bone )
Just when it seems he is out of play he comes back in - read his article he has left the door open - Charlie will be around to "help" us out to give us as he says "poppycock", "pure unaltered poppycock".
Lisa you are right he blames God - is this guy for real! As someone said maybe he was paid by a superpac or something so people wouldn't vote - all along he said the election results wouldn't matter, I told everyone on his site to not take that chance and to vote, he allowed the comment but didn't respond.

Glenn Dallaire said...

For those who read the original article here on Charlie Johnston that I published back in Jan. 2015, I emphasised in the introduction my reluctance to publish information on alleged LIVING visionaries and mystics, simply because 9 out of 10 are false. And unfortunately this seems to also be the case in regards to Charlie.

Nevertheless, this is a "Mystics of the Church" website, so it stands to reason that occasionally such (living) persons could be highlighted here, for the sake of information and discernment.

But, reflecting on these recent events, I just added the following to the "Update" in the article above:

"As for this writer, I can say that while I have always been reluctant to highlight purported LIVING mystics and visionaries, I am even more so now after these recent events."

I would say that summarizes one of my numerous key take away conclusions on all of this at this point.

Thanks to all for your comments thus far!
Glenn Dallaire

Anonymous said...

A mystic is someone who has experience a marriage between the earthly and the divine. Discernment of a person claiming to be a mystic is critical. In my own process I consider divorce to be a negative factor. Call me a hick, I don't care. We have this person https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_of_the_Lady_of_All_Nations
who created havoc. Gianna Sullivan is also divorced and Charlie Johnston is divorced. Thanks, Glenn for updating your standards.

Anonymous said...

You know Glenn, I wondered why you were highlighting Charlie since it didn't quite fit with the rest of your website. I thought it was wrong and misleading and I'm glad you are reluctant to write about living " mystics" in the future.

But, I realized the other day that God likely allowed it because you provided an open forum for people to make truthful and honest comments that would have been erased over at Charlie's website. So, maybe you have some regrets, but God can use our mistakes to bring about a greater good and I believe that is exactly what happened here.

Anyway, I love this website. It's so inspiring. Another good website for growing in holiness is... Discerning hearts.com

Thanks and God bless you Glenn!
Beth

Unknown said...

Extra treated, how much money did knuckle head make off his deceived, should get excommunicated

Anonymous said...

Anonymous form 11:20 am,

Divorce is a hideous scourge on the family. This is true. I used to be very judgmental towards divorced people until I went through it myself. I did not want to be divorced and I worked as hard as a person could to prevent it from occurring in my own family with young children. Sometimes a person doesn't get to choose to stay married even if they pray for it and work for it with every fiber of their being.

My children are grown and are very good and loving people. I'm sure they have wounds, no doubt, but like I said, I had no choice in the matter.

I stay close to the sacraments and have a spiritual director. I love people and do my best to be a strong, Catholic woman. I do not believe that my failed marriage has in any way prevented me from becoming as holy as God has intended me to be. I hope you can see through your prejudice and harsh, black and white judgements towards people who have already experienced pain on a level we would never wish on anyone.

Divorced people already feel ostracized in the church. They feel like misfits and we need better outreach programs to help them to feel welcomed into the faithful fold. Your "hickish" thinking as you called it isn't Christ like at all.
Beth

Brendan Triffett said...

Crackpots (of a certain type at least) can get certain things right. They can even be highly insightful at times on certain things. So I am not convinced by CJ's argument there.
It could be that his unusual mental intensity and sensitivity to the spiritual realm is simultaneously what allowed Charlie to see some things well (if we grant that) while ALSO contributing to delusion / hallucination / personality disorder. We musn't think: either CJ is a bit cracked or he saw some things truly.
PS in my experience, those who are mentally unbalanced tend to refer things back to themselves rather than fade humbly into the background. They find themselves too interesting. And this precisely is losing touch with reality.

If Charlie did see so much that was true (or even if he simply believed it) and also believed the outcome of world history was so tied up with his own fidelity, no wonder his mind crumbled under that burden
If this hypothesis is true, then a narcissistic tendency (which is at least latent in most brilliant minds) led CJ to a delusion of grandeur about his special mission. That does not mean there was no truth to it at all but that the truth got skewed and aggrandised. Then under the increasing weight of this sense of superhuman responsibility he started to crack up, lose touch and become crankier etc. If I am right (I admit it is only a working hypothesis at the moment) then the irony is magnificent. The man who preached TNRS and taking humble little steps because humans can achieve very little on their own (very true!) felt like he had to excuse himself from this motto in order to be the chosen One to preach it.
This hypothesis may well be false and I admit it would be very presumptious for me to say here that I told you true.

Fred Keyes said...

Glenn your site is useful--it can be something of a "Snopes" for spiritual claims. I do have one suggestion though.

I would categorize the "mystics" a bit more realistically—

1) True Mystics. Those recognized by the Church as such, like John of the Cross, Teresa of Avila, Catherine of Siena, etc.

2) Visionaries. Those whose messages have been deemed worthy of belief, like the seers at Fatima and Lourdes

3) Alleged Mystics. Like Maria Valtora, etc.

4) Alleged visionaries or seers. These would include Charlie, those at Medjugorje, Gianna Sullivan Talone, etc.

Lisa said...

So Charlie supposedly "told us true," but God and/or His angel didn't tell Charlie the truth; instead, God allowed Charlie to be "deceived" and to deceive others. This is narcissism to the extreme! I don't see any benefit to Charlie in deceiving others this way, so I assume it must be a mental illness. He may be hearing voices and seeing visions, but I don't believe any of them are divine.

T-bone said...

Brendan T.

As to your point on Mark Mallett, I am willing to concede.
Additionally, I did not actually read Mallett's post.
When discerning, you look for logical errors and theological errors.
Theological errors, when they come from a Catholic mystic, are an immediate red flag.
This is all just my opinion.

T.


Glenn Dallaire said...


For the record concerning Charlie's divorce:

Charlie formally received from Pope a seldom used provision called a "Petrine privilege", under which very specific circumstances the Church allows for the dissolution of a marriage. Essentially it is similar to an annulment.

I have verified this privately in my research. Those interested can Google "Petrine privilege" for more info.

-Glenn Dallaire

Anonymous said...

Dear January 21-rst, 10:32am- I do definitely agree with you. At one point I had said to a family member, "I wish that my friend had never told me about Charlie Johnston." I will pray for, him, because he is God's child, but I discerned from the onset that he was not a true Prophet. The lack of kindness to people that visited the site, was the main sign, and the fact that his predictions did not line up with Our Blessed Mother's apparition messages. I do believe Charlie has good in him, but I think it is the right thing that he is retiring from the scene. There had been too much "drama," and "trauma," with all of this. What all of us need, now, is a good dose of the Holy Spirit's peace! And more prayer and the Eucharist, would be good, also. God bless everyone.

Glenn Dallaire said...


Excellent point Fred--thank you. I am definitely going to frame things here on this site more in the lines of the important distinctions that you made.

Thanks again!
Glenn Dallaire

Anonymous said...

T-Bone,
Mark Mallet is a straight arrow with obviously excellent, contemplative spiritual directors. The statement "enough for Me to multiply" is in no way heretical. When Jesus multiplied the food to the feed the thousands, he asked them "what do you have" and they gave him the little they had and He gave thanks, blessed it, and fed them all. As the devil tempted Jesus in the desert to turn the stones into bread because he was hungry, Jesus did not even though it was within His power to do so. If we have a simple crust of bread, that is what we offer Jesus and He will multiply it if we have faith. That is my understanding of "enough for Me to multiply". There is no heresy in Mark Mallets statements. Peace!

Sarge said...

Hello,

I followed Charlie's blog for a little over a year. I often posted under the name 'Sarge'. I first read about him on this site (I try to make reading about the saints a part of my spiritual practices.) I found a lot of his writing to be very encouraging. His 'TNRS' message really helped me a lot (basically a reinforcement of the Little Way), and I am grateful for that. I also found a nice little community of people who offered support and prayers for one another. I am also very grateful for that.

Although they maybe loosely lined up with Fatima and Pope Leo's vision, many of his predictions and prophecies never really sat right with me (I've plainly posted this on his site as well.) The site progressively gained a more and more political overtone, which became a red flag for me. I did stick around, however, because as I said I found many of his posts to provide good solid Catholic teaching and they did give me encouragement as I went through a very dark personal time. I think that's the thing that always stuck with me...I hoped that the alleged Rescue in late 2017 would also mark the end date of my personal trials.

I have to admit, that given the unforeseen (at least to me) rise of President Trump, I started to wonder if maybe there really was something unusual afoot. I am relieved that many of the predicted calamities did not occur. No right minded person would wish suffering on anyone. However, if they did come to pass, I always looked at it as being along the lines of "there's no Resurrection without Crucifixion" so I considered it as something we would maybe just have to persevere through to get to our ultimate end (God).

Clearly, the predictions were false, and as these were things that Charlie claims he was told plainly, either the 'angel' was an agent of the evil one or there never was an angel. I really can't see it any other way.

I wish the man no ill will. He was very encouraging to me as I was going through my trials, as were many others who often posted on his site. For that I consider Charlie and many others who regularly comment to be friends. I will continue to hold them in my prayers.

Just wanted to write a quick post as many commenters here were asking what people who regularly follow Charlie's blog are thinking. I speak for no one but myself, but those are my thoughts.

May God bless you all.

Anonymous said...

To be honest I have nothing good to say about Charlie, when people asked me about him where I live I told them my experiences and they quickly realized he was not worth following.
I know a lot of his followers still love him, but he leaves behind a wake of dead bodies. It's hard to fathom they still want him to continue, but we knew that would happen, his group will whittle down over time. It's hard to grasp that there are religious people on his site who were also taken in and some are doing their best to spin this thing.
Bottom line - Charlie isn't taking responsibility for deceiving people, when someone tells you that God is talking to them, I think it best to stay away. We have all we need in the Sacraments, Bible, Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, Saints, Approved Apparitions, etc., we have everything we need what more would have Charlie given?
As Charlie proves as much as he yells and demeans people for not listening to him and then decides leave to write fiction and play the piano or whatever - it leaves everyone holding the bag - you are on your own - Charlie is gone - just like that he disappears and here you stand alone. We are left to pick up the pieces, where is Charlie and what does he say or infer - hey buddy you're on your own, you didn't have to listen to me, it's you fault for listening to me.
Yes, the shock hasn't fully set in yet, his followers are still loyal, some are ticked, eventually most will peel away after they come to their senses, everyone wanted to and still want to believe it was real, but it wasn't real, people think star wars is real but it's not, but they think it is, people think Charlie was real but he's not, but people still think he is real, but he's not.
Unfortunately, we are on our own, we decide, no one can take your freedom away, Charlie did for some, learn from Charlie and never sell you freedom to anyone again, don't loose it, stick to the teachings of the Church - it is free will.

Joe said...

If that is the way God works I want no part of it.

Regina Barzyk said...

Dear Mr. Charlie Johnston:

Never mind what anyone says. This prophecy does not affect me... Please be confident that God's blessings are always with you. I will continue to pray for you and your ministry.
May God bless you
Regina

Anonymous said...

There had to be a political bend because his prophecies were tied to political events. The problem with Charlie is that he couldn't see that the political landscape was changing and because he made these prophecies he had to stick to them and it was too late before he realized that something else was going on that baffled him. He became confused and tried to play both sides of the fence and we know how that worked out.
My intelligence on world events was way better than his, I called Trump from the time he decided to run for the republicans - I could sense Trump was a changed man and he was going to be hard to stop. I have now figured out how and why his heart has changed but that's not for here. I called Trump, Charlie made fun of me up until the last few weeks of the election. I implored people to vote and to not take it for granted that there would be no election - surprisingly he allowed my comment. In the end he said jokingly he would take a couple of stiff drinks and vote for Trump to save face.
I did pay a price though, despite the name calling and mocking and scrubbed posts, he kicked me off his site for exposing his backroom shenanigans. Dissent or letting facts getting in the way of Charlie's thinking are not allowed. At this point, he is still up to his shenanigans, that's why I think he is leaving because he got caught not because he is remorseful, which he isn't. I have very good words to say about Charlie, he hasn't changed, I forgive him, but I will not forget.

Glenn Dallaire said...


Dear "Sarge",
Thanks for sharing your reflections and a bit of your spiritual journey here. I found it very sincere and uplifting.

May God bless you and your loved ones,
Glenn Dallaire

Anonymous said...

Joe which post are you referring too?

carli said...

I found this comment on Charlie's website today:
"charliej373 says:
January 21, 2017 at 9:56 am
This message was not from God."
https://charliej373.wordpress.com/2017/01/19/time-to-choose/comment-page-4/#comments

So he acknowledges that it was not from God. My question then is, who was this message from? Has he said who it was from?

Anonymous said...

Sorry I meant to say "I have FEW good words to say about Charlie".

Joseph J. said...


If I had to categorize his "final" post today I would call it what they call it in politics:

"DAMAGE CONTROL"

He basically only owned up to the fact that the prediction was false, which is glaringly obvious to everyone. And at least he is keeping his promise to leave the scene, at least for now....

Joe said...

Lisa 10:23

Anonymous said...

Carli; that's part of the problem, you can not get straight answers from Charlie or anyone who knows him.
Despite all his backroom shenanigans people love him look at the above two comments from Sarge and Regina they don't know or care Charlie hurt other people they worry about themselves and their situation, that's why it is best to follow the Church and your own community they can help you.
Yes, Charlie's site was supportive to people, but it was based on a lie, I always said that Charlie should have set up a Catholic Good Will Site without the prophecies.
It's like the story I told of the girl who met this guy and he started going to the born-again Church with him, about a month later she introduces him to her boyfriend! Turns out these girls were bringing in guys to the Church using seduction.

Joe said...

273 responses on charlie's last blog and wouldn't you know every single one was glowing and positive of Charlie. Then he claims that God allowed him to be deceived in turn deceiving all the people that listened to Charlie. So basically Charlie is saying God works in deceptive ways. That is why I said if that is the way God works I want no part of it. Charlie has no integrity.

Anonymous said...

Here is the post that Carli above is referring to:

Thomas Cavanagh says:
January 21, 2017 at 9:34 am
I am not a hater. I saw Charlie when he was in Dallas and thanked him for what he has done. I’m inspired by him to be a better Catholic. But that being said. The messages are not from God or it would have happened. Charlie has tried his best to make sure he was receiving them from God. I just don’t want to see gullible people let astray by something not from God. If I have learned anything from Charlie it is to stand up and speak the truth

charliej373 says:
January 21, 2017 at 9:56 am
This message was not from God.


Anonymous said...

Joe I was in your shoes and I noticed that you continued to be hard on Charlie, I let up a bit and thought you were a little over the top on your comments at this stage, however, with all that has transpired with Charlie and his recent blog - you're right to be all over him, as Joseph said he is in DAMAGE CONTROL. Charlie is not remorseful, sorry he is remorseful for being wrong only, not to his followers and still is playing tricks by scrubbing posts. This is not a man of God. As others have said I don't think he's completely gone and he will come back - this is scary. I'm going to wait a week or so to see what his diocese does and if they don't say anything you'll know a deal was struck with Charlie. After that I will complain to his diocese to get him permanently muzzled and others should do the same otherwise he will re-appear.

Anonymous said...

Okay was it the bad guy, voices in his head, CNN, or did he make it up and hope that he would be right? The question becomes how did this prophecy come to him?

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