
Medjugorje and the upcoming judgement of the Church -A reason for concern?
By: Glenn Dallaire
(Before I begin this article I would like to emphatically state that I remain neutral in what concerns the alleged apparitions of Medjugorge. In seeking to obey the Church, while at the same time awaiting the definitive judgment by the Vatican, I do recognise and give assent to the local Bishops opposition to the apparitions, and I also give assent to the 1991 "Zadar" decision from the Commission formed by the Yugoslavian Bishops conference which concluded "non constat de supernaturalitate" [the supernaturality is not proven] . I do feel very strongly that the local Bishops opposition must be respected, and that it, along with the Zadar decision represents the position of the Church for now, until the official judgement from Rome is promulgated. At the same time it must be understood that Medjugorje has never been officially condemned in any way, and that thusfar the Church has left the faithful free to carefully discern and to come to one's own conclusions concerning the alleged heavenly events that are said to be occurring there.)
Reports of a decision by the end of the year
The Italian News agency ASCA reported yesterday (Feb 15, 2012) Cardinal Vinko Puljic of Sarajevo announced that the Vatican Commission who is currently studying the alleged apparitions of the Virgin Mary at Medjugorje will be coming forth with a decision to be submitted to Pope Benedict XVI by the end of the year. Cardinal Vinko Puljic is himself a member of the Commission investigating the proposed supernatural appearances of the Gospa- a name she is called locally- at Medjugorje. Given the worldwide following and devotion of the apparitions many in the Church feel that the Vatican really does need to come to a clear judgment concerning the authenticity of the events, for the sake of all the faithful concerned, even though the alleged apparitions are still ongoing. It is an accepted conclusion that the decision of the Commission will soon afterwards lead to a decision by the Pope, or perhaps the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith.
A decision that will be wrought with great consequences
Having said this, there are some who strongly think there is a very serious concern looming with such a decision, regardless of whether it be in support of the supernatural nature of the apparitions and messages, or against them.
Ramifications of a positive decision in favor of the supernatural authenticity of the Medjugorje apparitions
Those who follow or have studied Medjugorje know that the the local Ordinary, that is, the local Bishop of Mostar-Duvno, both past and present, have for many years been against the apparitions, and have made many public explanations over the years concerning their opposition to the apparitions and the alleged heavenly messages.
Now, many have remarked that IF the Commission and/or the Pope concludes in favor of the supernatural authenticity of the alleged apparitions, such a decision would directly contradict the opinion of the local Bishop, and also his predecessor, both of whom over the years have continually publicly opposed the alleged apparitions and messages of the Gospa. To my knowledge, the Vatican has never come to a judgment concerning an apparition that has contradicted the opinion of the local Bishop. In fact, normally speaking it is the Ordinary alone, and not the Vatican (or even the Pope), who is the sole judge in matters of private revelation that is occurring within the jurisdiction of his diocese. However in very special cases such as Medjugorje, because of its worldwide significance and following, a regional Commission or even (as presently in this case) a Vatican Commission can be formed to judge the matter for the Church as a whole. So a favorable decision by Rome would contradict the opinion of the local Bishop in a matter that is normally rightfully his alone to judge, as a successor to the apostles.
And then there are the numerous legitimate issues---some call them “red flags”---concerning the apparitions and visionaries at Medjugorje that have been brought forth by not only the local Bishop, but also from various religious and lay persons who have studied and experienced the apparitions firsthand. One can go onto the local Bishops website for an extensive treatment of many of the concerns or red flags that have been raised. Apart from the Bishops opposition, one surprising example of a red flag would be the damaging 3 minute video of Vicka who is caught on camera by Professor Louis Belanger obviously feigning an ecstasy, and then trying to cover up afterwards with an explanation that is, quite honestly, simply fraudulant.
Ramifications of a proposed negative decision
I think that it is safe to say that the worldwide number of those who follow and support Medjugorje would have to be in the tens of millions, and over the past 30 years there have been many extraordinary and beautiful testimonies of conversion and renewal at Medjugorje. Without a doubt there has been very much good fruit over the years that has come forth from it. But in all truthfulness there nevertheless has been some unfavorable fruit also, most especially the disobedience to some of the directives of the local Bishop, which I will not delve into, because it is beyond the scope of this article.
However the fact remains that those who currently publicly promote the apparitions and messages of Medjugorje do so contrary to directives of the local Bishop, who has asked that the alleged messages of the Gospa not be promoted. In fact, to publicly support Medjugorje one would be openly contradicting the long held opposition and negative opinion of the local Bishop(s), both past and present. But what if the Vatican were to formally decide against the apparitions at Medjugorje---would the millions who currently follow Medjugorje obey the decision of the Church? And here is precisely where I think there is a enormous concern if the Church was to in fact come to a negative decision concerning the apparitions.
Is there a real possibility of a false "Marian” schism?And here I must now interject my own personal experiences, which have nothing to do with current situation of Medjugorje, at this current moment. A number of years ago I was a member of a large Marian group that was led by a mystic. The movement was eventually first condemned by the local Bishop, and then later by Rome itself. I decided to obey the rightful judgment of the Church, who alone has the authority of Christ to judge such matters. The vast majority of the members however chose to remain in the movement, contrary to the negative judgment of the Church.
Condemned apparitions and disobedience to the Church
And this is not in the least bit an isolated case. We see this happening right at this moment in the USA and abroad with numerous followers of alleged visionaries and apparitions such as Maureen Sweeney-Kyle and the "Holy Love" apparitions, Gianna Talone-Sullivan and "Our Lady of Emmitsburg", Vassula Ryden and "True Life in God", Veronica Lueken at Bayside, NY., Julia Kim and "Our Lady of Naju", Christina Gallagher and the “Queen of Peace” –just to mention a few. All of these have received a negative judgments from the local Bishop, and several of these negative judgments have also been validated, that is, confirmed by the Vatican (which in fact is not necessary under most circumstances, as mentioned earlier).
The fact remains that even after the negative judgment from the local Ordinary and in some cases even with a validation from the Vatican, there are still a very large number of followers in the examples above who continue to support these condemned visionaries and apparitions, despite the Church's negative judgment. Sadly by doing so such persons setup Christ (and the Virgin Mary) against His Church.
And so the question is—what would happen if Medjugorje actually received a negative judgement from the Vatican? Would the majority of the millions of Catholics who are currenly following Medjugorje obey? Or would a negative decision on the part of Rome lead to a sort of false "Marian" apostasy or schism? No one knows what the upcoming decision of the Commission will be, but from the many recent examples above we can see that this is a reasonable and legitimate grave concern.

The example of St John Vianney, the holy 'Cure of Ars"
Within regards to cautious discernment concerning visionaries and apparitions, we can recall how the holy 'Cure of Ars' , St John Vianney, for eight years became very skeptical of the apparitions of the Virgin Mary at La Salette prior to the Bishops approval. The apparitions had occurred not far from Ars, and there was an extraordinary amount of interest among the faithful. Because of his reputation for holiness, people would frequently visit him and ask his opinion. He would suddenly get very serious, yet remain silent. Himself a recepient of some extraordinary graces from God, he had met Maximin (one of the visionaries) in 1850, nevertheless he was very cautious and reserved. But he did at least on one occasion voice a certain opposition, which apparently stemmed from his meeting with Maximin, and this 'negative' opinion of the holy Cure spread across the newspapers in France.
While the local Bishop, and later Rome, eventually fully approved the appearences of the Virgin Mary at LaSalette, Saint John Vianney's reservation, I think, is a lesson in not accepting alleged apparitions too quickly; that one should always be prudent and cautious concerning them, until they are approved by the local Bishop (or in the special case of Medjugorje, the possible approval of Rome, in whose judgement we are all awaiting).
It remains for the Church alone to decide as to the authenticity of the alleged apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary at Medjugorje. I pray that the Holy Spirit may guide the Church in this matter, and may all Catholics give assent to the judgement of the Church, whatever it may be. And may our Blessed Mother cover us under Her mantle, and lead us ever closer to Her beloved Son, Jesus.
-Holy Virgin Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death, Amen. +
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10 comments:
Very wise article
Good post. A few things...
A favorable judgement can generally only be pronounced after apparitions have concluded (a pre-approval cannot be given to future locutions!). An unfavorable judgement can be pronounced, if warranted, even while the phenomenon is ongoing, which has occurred in numerous instances of false private revelations. From this it follows that IF a decision by the Pope closely follows the commission's report, it will almost certainly not be a favorable judgement.
Since the commission's report is due by the end of the year, there is a likelihood of the Pope issuing a final declaration (if the decision is negative) within the Year of Faith. The silver lining of this will be an opportunity to teach about the true nature of this theological virtue. The teaching of St John of the Cross is relevant to this; faith does not rely essentially on visions, consolations, or phenomena, but in grows the most surely in the absence of these, which actually have a huge potential to mislead. Visions and locutions, in fact, are among the lesser phenomena of the spiritual life and tend to be left behind (he teaches to pay no special attention to them) in the course of spiritual growth as one passes through the "dark night" of spiritual purification, toward intimate divine union. Faith, according to John of the Cross, is a pure gift of God's grace infused in the soul, and is the proximate means to union with God in love. Anyway, a possible declaration of nonsupernaturality, likely to shake the faith of even millions, would actually be a teaching opportunity with potential to lead many of them much deeper in faith.
If Medjugorje is not from heaven, it is a massive scandal and source of division. In the actual Diocese of Mostar-Duvno the Medjugorje phenomenon has helped to perpetuate a pre-existing schism of certain Franciscan run parishes. Anyone who has looked into it much may have seen, as I have seen, Medjugorje devotees including priests, sadly declaring their willingness to choose Medjugorje over the Church. There is major possibility of increasing ecclesial division or schism. Certainly of individuals including some priests leaving the community of the Church or painful and divisive instances of dissent.
In the event that Medjugorje is approved as being supernatural, it would remain true that no individual is required to believe in it. No one is required to believe in any private revelation, though ordinary prudence dictates being generally accepting toward those the Church approves (which would be true also if Medjugorje is approved). On the surface of it, approving Medjugorje is the option that rocks the boat the least. But the Church is obliged to do what conforms with the truth, and no good can actually come of doing otherwise.
The Pope will soon put a stop to the Medjugorjians new religion that they have desperately been trying to pawn off as Catholicism to the unsuspecting masses. (Oh yea, at one time there’s was a lot of confessions taking place there, and this was used as evidence of the authenticity of the situation – just one problem though – they were all invalid!! A lot of these creeps were "anointed" to hear confessions by some freak from the Jansen's Old Catholic Church that's been over there five hundred years!)
Yea, and that Jozo dude is giving people demons, too.
They have been successful in separating the people of God from their Bishops in the True Catholic Church by inundating them with what are supposedly daily messages straight from Heaven via the ‘mother of god’, thereby deceiving untold thousands through brainwashing techniques accomplished with the help of internet technology and old fashioned gullibility.
It’s been an amazing feat to behold. Truly the work of some of the best con-men the world has ever seen. The used car salesmen’s 'old bait and switch' pales in comparison to what we have been seeing take place right before our eyes.
What’s the bait? Mary!
What’s the switch? Another Gospel!
Man, look. If you can convince a lot of Catholic people that something is Mary – they will believe ANYTHING.
No longer is it necessary to separate someone from their family and use sleep deprivation, fasting and brainwashing techniques to get the person to join a cult and wind up shaking a tambourine and selling books in the airport. No, all you have to do is get them to go to one stupid seminar and send em’ home with a pile of literature and a Web Site to go to, and ya got em’ hooked!
The false mystic says, “listen to me! I see mary!
Listen to me… And the POPE.” See how slick that is??
The dingbat will make it seem as if she really is true – hey, she listens to the Pope, right!!!
Never mind the Bishop though –Ah, he’s a dumb dog.
Now what happens when the next Pope is elected and the false mystic says, “He’s the antichrist!” Now what? You’ve already been separated from the Bishop of your souls! All you’ve got left is some jezebel dressed up like a nun telling you what the Truth is…
These people are guna’ split off from the Church and elect their own pope and make what Lefebvre and his gang did look like a Sunday picnic.
Six little minions of the fallen angel decided to disobey their Bishop. And when disobedience in not checked, it leads to rebellion. And this is exactly what happened in the former Yugoslavia. And when a rebellion is not swiftly put down, it leads to mutiny! On the High Seas! Now somebody’s got to die in order to restore order, and prevent chaos. And that's exactly what happened to that fella that started Medjugorje - God smote him dead of a heart attack right there on his hill of aberration. He died outside the Sacraments of the Church!
When a rebellion is breaks out, then you’ve got witchcraft.
Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.
There is nothing more powerful in opening up a way to the demonic spirit world than rebellion; it’s more powerful that pharmaceuticals. And the devil has taken advantage of this to demonstrate his wares to his unsuspecting visitors.
Nothing has ever happened at Medjugorje that the devil couldn’t do. So beware, my friend – Beware.
RbM
Glenn,
Very prudent advice and a good overview.
I've added a link to your post in mine here:
http://te-deum.blogspot.com/2012/02/medjugorje-commission-to-end-its-work.html
Anonymous said: (...at one time there’s was a lot of confessions taking place there, and this was used as evidence of the authenticity of the situation – just one problem though – they were all invalid!! A lot of these creeps were "anointed" to hear confessions by some freak from the Jansen's Old Catholic Church that's been over there five hundred years!)
I am among the skeptics and critics of Medjugorje and I can tell you that this is not exactly true.
There are 9 Franciscans who usurped several parishes in the Diocese of Mostar-Duvno, and among them, quite close to Medjugorje. It was at one of these parishes that the fake bishop was brought in. Some 800 confirmations were invalid and it fell upon Bishop Peric to inform the families that the bishop was fake. He then had a massive Confirmation for the young people. At those usurped parishes, which remain so today, the Franciscans involved, already kicked out of the Franciscan order, and suspended "a divinis", remain at those parishes. Confessions heard there, are invalid.
This all stems from the Herzegovina Conflict. Until two summers ago, English speaking readers had not seen the 1975 decree of the Holy See - Romanis Pontificibus which is at the heart of the problem. People will often refer to it as the "rift between the bishop and the Franciscans. In actuality, it is a rift between the Franciscans and the Holy See itself, which issued the decree. No where in the world do we see any religious order running the vast majority of parishes in an area. When we do see it, it often involves a missionary order like the Franciscans, and it takes place in missionary territory. The decree of the Holy See generously allowed the Franciscans to keep 50% of the parishes and asked them to hand over nine, I believe.
The Holy See has been trying, for well over 100 years now, to move that region out of missionary status. But, some Franciscans, not all, have been resistant. Moreover, it involves only the Herzegovina Province.
Recently, a Franciscan by the name of Marko Semren, OFM was name auxiliary bishop of Banja Luka. This is the first bishop in over 40 years from the Franciscan order. As Franciscan order websites around the world acknowledged it, notably absent was any word from the Herzegovina province, or the Medjugorje website. See here and see the homily of the papal nuncio upon his naming.
It is interesting to compare Fatima (approved by the Church), Akita (approved too) and Medjugorje.
The two first could be resume to a few messages with a straight content: penance, prayer, repentance, preparation with apocalyptic warnings ("If men don't repent..." etc...) And both apparitions are tightly linked as then Card. Ratzinger acknowledged.
With Medjugorge, since 30 years we are overwhelmed by a number of weekly wishy-washy messages, sometimes even daily of which content often is repetitive. Theologically speaking, a few messages are suspicious, for example regarding the EENS dogma.
In addition, Akita, like Fatima were very quickly approved.
The fact that the bishop of Medjugorge's diocese early declined to approve these apparitions is a sign.
In my opinbion, although one cannot deny that there are many good fruits of conversion an faith in Medjugorje, these apparitions are too controversial.
A few people only know that several purported apparitions happened in the vicinity and the aftermath of those of Lourdes. Although they looked theologically right, they never wer approved. Why to make an exception with Medjugorge and reverse _in an unprecedented manner_ the irrevocable decision of a bishop who was certainly inspired by the Holy Spirit?
Thank you Mark, Elizabeth, Anonymous, Diane and Jac for your comments.
Elizabeth:
You make an excellent point that a favorable judgement really cannot be made until AFTER the apparitions/messages have ended. And this brings forth one of the most unique elements about Medjugorje---the sheer number of alleged heavenly messages and the extensive 30 year ongoing timeframe. No other approved apparition has had anywhere near the amount of messages or length of time of these allged apparitions. So I too wonder how it could be possible for the Church to approve the messages/apparition as it is still ongoing.
This is why I am thinking that the upcoming decision will be one of two outcomes:
1) Either the judgement will be negative,
2) or, it will simply be a set of norms and guidelines for priests in regards to the celebration of Mass and the Sacraments at Medjugorje, along with other guidelines pertaining to pilgrimages and the devotion of the faithful, in my opinion.
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Diane:
Thanks for adding a link in your blog-I sincerely appreciate it.
And thank you also for the explanations concerning the longtime and very unfortunate affair between the Church and the local Franciscans. Their ongoing disobedience to the Pope and the local Bishop is reprehensible, and by doing so they seperate not only themselves, but the people of God from the true Church of Christ.
Thanks again to everyone for your comments.
-Glenn Dallaire
Thank you Glenn and to the others who have posted thoughtful and respectful comments. To add to the conversation, I encourage readers to take the time to read a letter from the Parish Priests of Medjugorje at: http://medjugorje.hr/en/medjugorje-phenomenon/guide/spiritual-movement/
Thank you ...
Peace in Christ
I respectfully disagree with Glenn Satan cannot cause the conversion of a sinner i have seen numerous cases of conversions personally because of medjugorje fyi padre pio was considered to be false at one point in time by the church
Is there anyone else who believes that the writings of Maria Valtorta (Poem of the Godman)have an odd tone of inauthenticity and unGodliness?
Yet the vision in Medjugorje instructs us to look to Valtorta for the truth.
I can only conclude that neither are true simply because Valtorta's writings conflict with Maria of Agreda and her inspired biography of the Holy Virgin. MaryAnn
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