tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post7116801835065898115..comments2024-03-27T12:00:08.460-04:00Comments on Mystics of the Church: False visionaries, mediums, psychics, clairvoyants, healers & channelers in the Church and in the world todayGlenn Dallairehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14335880223972671663noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-50322840141372814922023-03-03T05:18:26.276-05:002023-03-03T05:18:26.276-05:00I know this comment is 11 years later, but this we...I know this comment is 11 years later, but this website no longer exists. Apparitions are actually not judged by the weakest points. As you may or may not know Pope Francis has now allowed Medjugorje to be a place of pilgrimage, where 5 years earlier he was against it. There's a commission set up there now and is currently under investigation. The last I read the Vatican has approved the first seven apparitions as worthy of belief. Anything after that is still under investigation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-41847540850276228632023-02-18T06:59:02.468-05:002023-02-18T06:59:02.468-05:00Thank you SCB for your thoughtful and interesting ...Thank you SCB for your thoughtful and interesting comments. <br /><br />May God bless you and your loved ones.<br />Glenn DallaireGlenn Dallairehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14335880223972671663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-7505542359723180722023-02-17T17:18:37.508-05:002023-02-17T17:18:37.508-05:00The same thing happened to me. I always believed i...The same thing happened to me. I always believed in Medjugorje but when i went there a few years ago. I felt something evil. Absolutely had none of the experiences People have talked about. Maybe because I had already had a deep conversion experiences before ever going. When I came home I started researching and found out that all the Bishops of Mostar, including the bishops conference said nothing supernatural was going on there. Their disobedience is the biggest factor. In all approved apparitions the seer was never sure if it was from God or the devil, so they submitted to the authority of the church and their confessors to determine. In Medjugorje they don’t seem to care. Also, the lies, the financial benefit. None of the seers work. None has gone into the religious life. The Bishop of Mostar in 1990 wrote a lengthy letter stating why he believed it was false, all the lies, changing of stories and of course the 2 Franciscan priests who were advising them who were defrocked for illicit behavior. I wish this had not been suppressed. I would never have gone had I known this. There are so many approved apparitions. Why not focus on those instead of unapproved ones? SCBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-73450034247294092392023-02-14T09:40:03.296-05:002023-02-14T09:40:03.296-05:00True. Many such heresies promoted by the fake appa...True. Many such heresies promoted by the fake apparition. Mixed with just enough truth to fool millions. The devil can fake lots of different phenomena, such as Rosary chains turning to gold and such.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-76744161460070997262023-02-14T09:36:03.458-05:002023-02-14T09:36:03.458-05:00I have the long and anguished 1990 statement of Bi...I have the long and anguished 1990 statement of Bishop Zanić, who was Bishop when the Međugorje fraud started. Note that I was a believer in this place for quite a time, but when he caught the children lying right off the bat, that was just the first ominous thing. The Bishop WANTED to believe, but there was too much evidence that negated the place. His letter (which I pulled from his Diocese's website) is long. I tried posting it here, even in 3 parts, but wasn't able to, as an error popped up that each part was too long. If anyone would like me to send it to you, email me at michelleishappy at cheerful dot com.<br />CalligraphyGirlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-47949719342440802612021-10-14T17:13:14.279-04:002021-10-14T17:13:14.279-04:00No she didn't say that . Get the facts rightNo she didn't say that . Get the facts rightAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-75050483689579502362021-07-07T22:12:51.307-04:002021-07-07T22:12:51.307-04:00There are many visionaries out there, claiming to ...There are many visionaries out there, claiming to have seen famous people in hell for example, and posting their stories all over Youtube. I wonder if this is a tool of the devil to discourage people and keep them from praying for those who have died. The worst sinners can still be saved. Several people claim to have visions of hell, and it is not only disturbing, but that they post information about it all over the internet ... I can just imagine the deception and hurt that is taking place. One woman insists that John Paul II is in hell. lol I definitely know that is not true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-63335326853448811432021-06-08T10:40:01.449-04:002021-06-08T10:40:01.449-04:00Right. The Medjugorje "vision's" cl...Right. The Medjugorje "vision's" claim that all religions are equally pleasing to "her son" was a big red flag.<br /><br />Other apparently erroneous claims were:<br />1. The Nativity of Our Lady was supposed to be on August 5, not September 8. Did the "vision" mean the Church has been wrong on that date for these many centuries and should now change the Nativity of Our Lady from September 8 to August 5? Insane.<br /><br />2. The "vision" also claimed that the holiest person in the area of Bosnia and Herzegovina was a Muslim woman. Whaaat? Catholics are taught that Christ is the only way, the truth, and the life. How can a Muslim be the holiest if she is not even Christian?<br /><br />I had wanted to believe in Medjugorje the first time I heard of it. But upon later reading about it, I said, no. Oh, no. It's not real.Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00003965922434128196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-41051128204236487342020-10-15T06:54:39.003-04:002020-10-15T06:54:39.003-04:00This is a fascinating and important subject which ...This is a fascinating and important subject which needs to be better publicised since several of the recently founded religious congregations have been revealed as having had abusive founders or foundresses. Religious superiors in the Catholic Church are not gurus.<br />For the case of a 19th century fake English Benedictine abbess in Rome, see<br /><br />https://romanchurches.fandom.com/wiki/San_Benedetto_de_Urbe<br /><br />Vasili Timonennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-12506663253223987282020-04-26T11:56:09.368-04:002020-04-26T11:56:09.368-04:00There is just one "message" from the &qu...There is just one "message" from the "Lady" of Medjugorje that should make every Catholic realize it is a false vision: The Lady has said all religions are equal. Heresy.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-8774246210435797222019-03-11T02:31:50.149-04:002019-03-11T02:31:50.149-04:00I feel sorry for you. You are greatly misinformed...I feel sorry for you. You are greatly misinformed. There has been nothing but disobedience from the beginning. And I have barely read any of the messages but saw several that contridiccon Scripture and the Church. The original priest who was directing them seduced a nun, had children out of wedlwed, fled their vocations, lived in sin and was deflocked. They have been trying to shut it down since the beginning,but was met with rampant disobedience. It wasn't until the Pope put a gag order on the priests and the Churches from allowing the visionaries to speak on Church grounds that there was even partial obedience. Nettie Raehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04730883297808162515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-42879485096788817112019-03-11T02:24:43.240-04:002019-03-11T02:24:43.240-04:00Amen! I went there once and knew something was no...Amen! I went there once and knew something was not right. I came home and read everything I could and investigated. I remained ambivalent and open until I found tbe Church's position several years later! Nettie Raehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04730883297808162515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-612093575860339682019-03-11T02:13:13.307-04:002019-03-11T02:13:13.307-04:00Amen! I hear this all the time too about Medjugor...Amen! I hear this all the time too about Medjugorje. And Garabandal was deemed of Satan. Nettie Raehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04730883297808162515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-28272664036012745382017-12-09T11:06:54.338-05:002017-12-09T11:06:54.338-05:00This Chinese Zodiac Animal Signs around the motion...This Chinese Zodiac Animal Signs around the motion of the constellations in the sky and sun signs is separated by months. This astrology separates signs by years and adopts its symbolizations from an apologue. The western form is organized according to the earth orbit around the sun.Chinese Zodiac Animal Signshttp://www.georgetangchineseastrology.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-11020965771917974432017-09-26T18:17:01.243-04:002017-09-26T18:17:01.243-04:00The quality of any apparition is not judged by the...The quality of any apparition is not judged by the good things that happen there.lts judged by its weakest points. In this case there are so many outrageous acts of disobedience encouraged by the vision its is impossible for this to have come from The Blessed Virgin. Most people<br />only site the good things they have seen and ignore the rest. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-59107668640104081192016-02-11T10:01:15.493-05:002016-02-11T10:01:15.493-05:00Do you read the "messages" like what the...Do you read the "messages" like what the apparition says like all religions are equel if they're equal then why did her son die on the cross? Only one of the many heresies. Then there's the disobedience to the bishops. That should be enough to tell it's a fraud.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04774613669241218944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-81414113200766124912015-05-08T22:40:59.844-04:002015-05-08T22:40:59.844-04:00There has never been any disobedience at Medjugorj...There has never been any disobedience at Medjugorje. There has never been 1 message is 33 years that has contradicted dogma and Church teaching. Fruits in abundance, vocations, healing of hearts; this is a true sign of an authentic apparition of Our Lady. If the Vatican had any concerns Medjugorje would have been shut down decades ago. Hundreds of bishops and cardinals have been there to let alone tens of thousands of priests. Local bishop's leadership was taken away by the Vatican- he believed in it then didn't then said he also does not believe in Lourdes or Fatima! Confused man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-17615801614478425832014-09-15T07:22:56.979-04:002014-09-15T07:22:56.979-04:00(Continued from above)
PS: I don't see any ins...(Continued from above)<br />PS: I don't see any instances of "fraud" by the visionaries in Medjugorje, just the initial disobedience to Church authority. They were young and naive. To is day I do not think they are bad or sinful or insincere. One of them got taken in by the unsavory money-grubbing place called Friend of Medjugorje but she was far from alone in that matter.<br />We cannot blame random fraud perpetrated by others who have little or nothing to do with the visionaries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-32982414765531476402014-09-15T07:15:29.536-04:002014-09-15T07:15:29.536-04:00@JayB: God Bless you too. I've been to Medjugo...@JayB: God Bless you too. I've been to Medjugorje as well and I absolutely loved it. It seemed to me the holiest place on earth and I've been following and trying to live the messages for at least 10 years. If I could've afforded it, I would've gone there as much as possible from the U.S.<br /><br />So it makes me very sad now to see that Medjugorje actually failed the first test of a true apparition - obedience. I had no idea till I came across this website and I am heartbroken. <br /><br />Yes Medjugorje has awesome good fruits, but after reading the story of Magdalene of the Cross, we know that the evil one will "divide his house" and produce good fruits when he he knows he can eventually steal souls from God. He is a liar from the beginning so of course the end justifies the means.<br /><br />Anyway, the number one reason I see NOW is that the six visionaries in Medjugorje should have obeyed the Bishop FIRST. If the visions were truly from God Who sent Our Blessed Mother, then, in time Our Lady would have made it right, as with Padre Pio and other wrongly accused saints who patiently waited. I simply can't believe Our Lady would've promoted disobedience towards our Church. I now believe the six young visionaries were fooled too.<br /><br />As an obedient Catholic, I can no longer follow this apparition until/if the Vatican itself approves it, which we know cannot happen until the apparitions finally end. Our Holy Mother Church is nothing but cautious and patient. I don't believe I will even be alive when the final decision is made one way or the other.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-61701657890504773732014-02-17T04:26:56.588-05:002014-02-17T04:26:56.588-05:00@mark waterinckx: I don't think you've see...@mark waterinckx: I don't think you've seen all the good fruits Medjugorje has produced ~ there's been so many! Anyway, take a look at the finding of the Vatican investigations of the place: http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/the-vatican/detail/articolo/medjugorje-ruini-31362/<br /><br />God bless!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07981877885443567755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-3662610301654058382012-02-24T13:20:55.561-05:002012-02-24T13:20:55.561-05:00If you are really interested in the many cases of ...If you are really interested in the many cases of fraud in Medjugorje, please read :<br /><br />www.marcocorvaglia.com/medjugorje-en/home.htmlmark waterinckxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-91668834351078736832011-12-16T07:59:14.087-05:002011-12-16T07:59:14.087-05:00@mark waterinckx: Hundreds of evidences of fraud i...@mark waterinckx: Hundreds of evidences of fraud in Medjugorje? Just wondering if there is proof of that, like say, five cases of fraud, you can post here. Genuinely interested, is all. Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7233237209177841826.post-56167443582444764152011-12-15T11:04:25.367-05:002011-12-15T11:04:25.367-05:00This story is very instructive
I have been involve...This story is very instructive<br />I have been involved in false 'apparitions' since 1970. I possess 300 files now. I have been fooled especially by Medjugorje, where I have been 24 times. Now I try to inform people about this huge fraud.<br />The defenders of Med. only see the 'good fruits', like it was the case with 'Mama Ebe', but turn a blind eye towards the hundreds of evidences of fraud.<br />I thank Glenn Dallaire for his interesting website, although I do not believe in some of the items(especially Garabandal)mark waterinckxnoreply@blogger.com